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Date:      Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:08:08 -0600 (CST)
From:      "Jasper O'Malley" <jooji@webnology.com>
To:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ports/9864: make rblcheck use relay.orbs.org instead of  dorkslayers.com
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.02.9902031956240.22594-100000@mercury.webnology.com>
In-Reply-To: <199902040109.RAA15905@kithrup.com>

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On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Sean Eric Fagan wrote:

> I have absolutely no sympathy for you, or anyone else affected by this -- all
> it means is you have to use your ISP's mail relay, or find someone willing to
> relay for you.  You don't like it, tough -- but you were going to lose it
> anyway, as more and more ISPs go with firewalls and redirectors.  If you want
> to run a server, then you should not be using a dialup pool; if your ISP
> doesn't have anything but that, then you'll have to get your ISP to talk to
> the DUL folks, if they end up on it.  (And a netblock will only end up on the
> DUL after spam is sent from it -- it's not pre-emptive.)

Why has everyone I've spoken with who supports the DUL been a complete
bastard about it? "I have absolutely no sympathy for you..." and "You
don't like it, tough." Of course, my "height of fucking stupidity" comment
may have had something to do with that.

I don't have to beg for a mail relay. I run an ISP, a very spam-unfriendly
one at that. But who are you to tell me I can't let my users run "servers"
from dialups (although none of them do) as long as they stick to my AUP
(posted on the web, if anyone here cares to look at it)?

I have philosophical objections to the DUL, people. I question its
usefulness/inconvenience ratio. I'm not out to help spammers, for
Christ's sake.

Now sod off, the lot of you ;)

Cheers,
Mick 

The Reverend Jasper P. O'Malley          dotdot:jooji@webnology.com
    Systems Administrator                  ringring:asktheadmiral
	Webnology, LLC               woowoo:http://www.webnology.com/~jooji


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