From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 21 23:50:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 872AD16A41F for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 23:50:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098BB43D53 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 23:50:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jALNoSfq002192; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:50:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jALNoRl0002189; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:50:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:50:26 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: John Fox In-Reply-To: <20051110012313.GB22149@mind.net> Message-ID: <20051122003657.G1039@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20051110012313.GB22149@mind.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status of 6.0 for production systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 23:50:38 -0000 > I remember back a while when 5.x had been recently released > as STABLE and the conventional wisdom said not to use it in > production until the 5.3 release. > > Is there any such conventional wisdom as regards 6.x? > my home system is actually production system that can't be stopped for a long time. i moved finally from NetBSD for various reasons including real SMP support (real=not crashing and not all-giant lock). what i can say is 1) performance is excellent. maybe it should be named FastBSD not FreeBSD :) 2) it DO has bugs, but i already filtered those than can make a problems for me. 3) first bug - kldunload means danger. many kernel modules just crash the system when unloaded. solution: just don't do it, not a real problem. 4) using kernel-ppp+pppd=crash after not a long time. that forced my to learn user ppp(8) which is actually MUCH better. same solution as 3. anyway i don't see any reason why kernel ppp is maintained at all. user ppp+tun interface works perfect. 5) sio driver has bugs. no crashes but overruns are reported by thousands unless i patched sio.c to increase buffer eightfold. the real bug is somewhere else, and can always be repeated with just dd if=/dev/ad0 bs=1m of=/dev/null the larger bs - the larger buffer have to be set to fix it until some value than enlarging bs to anything doesn't break things at all. i don't know how this all works in kernel so have no idea about the real fix. but this fix is enough for now. if you don't use high-speed serial it shouldn't be a problem for you anyway. 6) still have to learn ipfw more, an excellent tool! incomparably better than NetBSD's ipf! found no bugs on other things and system works stable. for 4 days now but stable without any problems, having stable 921kbps ppp link (which is my outbound connection) and all userlevel programs working fine.