From owner-freebsd-cluster Tue Dec 10 14:28:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CE537B401 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:28:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from vps.vitalit.com (vps.vitalit.com [64.105.194.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D836843EA9 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:28:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from car@vitalit.com) Received: from LAPTOP (gso167-138-145.triad.rr.com [24.167.138.145]) by vps.vitalit.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id gBAMSQhQ089367 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:28:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from car@vitalit.com) Message-ID: <003501c2a09b$5f5116c0$0301000a@LAPTOP> From: "Rouzer, Charles A (Chuck)" To: References: <20021210132642.N80252-100000@fubar.adept.org> Subject: Re: sharing files within a cluster Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:27:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Unfortunately I'd have to agree that Linux has better clustering support > > at the moment. That is basically because more people (particularly the > > corporations and national labs) are working on cluster support for Linux. > > Paraphrasing Jossie and the Pussycats (excellent pop culture commentary > ;), "Linux is the new Windows." So, indeed, no surprise here. Lets not put Linux down like that. ;-)) I like "Linux is the new Unix." better. ;-) > I don't think there's any 'pretty' FreeBSD clustering solution today... > Pretty meaning a combination of managability, stability, robustness and > correctness. So, moving forward, can we reach a consensus on 'what's best > to try to port?' I agree. I think investigating Single-System-Image-Clustering Linux and GlobalFS for potential ports would be a good start. I don't know anyone who is willing and capable to begin a port. It could also be that both projects are not mature enough to begin porting or better off creating a "branch" dedicated to FreeBSD. http://opengfs.sourceforge.net/ http://ssic-linux.sourceforge.net/ I would love to see FreeBSD get the following features most of which are currently being developed in the above projects or available (in order of importance): - iSCSI for storage area networks (LAN or WAN) (probably coming sooner than later) - Process migration, cluster wide /proc, GlobalFS or Other (ClusterFS?), - Cluster wide IP addresses. - Scale to 100s of nodes. - Cluster wide shared memory. > I have to admit I'll be implementing a mini-itx cluster in my garage this > summer as a side project and may experiment with NFS, Coda, etc... > However, those solutions would not be feasible in my production > envrionments. However, once the cluster is up, I'll be more than happy to > help some person or group implement and test better solutions. I am in the (slow) process of putting together a working SSIC-Linux here at home. Chuck To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-cluster" in the body of the message