From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 17 23:06:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D507106566C for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:06:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.221.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FE28FC0C for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:06:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so887781qyk.13 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.241.66 with SMTP id ld2mr650743qcb.78.1268867215535; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([189.70.193.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm7363829qwk.42.2010.03.17.16.06.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:06:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: Adam Vande More Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:08:26 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-STABLE; KDE/4.3.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201003171546.00190.lobo@bsd.com.br> <201003171749.13163.lobo@bsd.com.br> <6201873e1003171451x2c5f1368j4a13d8b0d688c7d2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e1003171451x2c5f1368j4a13d8b0d688c7d2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003172008.26388.lobo@bsd.com.br> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Measuring Free memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:06:57 -0000 On Wednesday 17 March 2010 21:51:11 Adam Vande More wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: > > > Well I hope you find the issue, I'm experiencing the same issue > > > > siimplying > > > > > trying to csup from 8-RELEASE to 8-STABLE. From what I've been able > > > to gather I think this only applicable to amd64. You might have a > > > different reason for wanting to know this, but I can assure you my > > > lockups aren't > > > > due > > > > > to a lack of memory from the host anyways. I have an order of > > > magnitude more free memory(according to top) in my hosts than my VM > > > requires when it's running and it still locks on every csup attempt. > > > > > > Mem: 112M Active, 12M Inact, 1543M Wired, 632K Cache, 2245M Free > > > > > > VM is set to use 256MB. > > > > Its sounds as if your FreeBSD is a GUEST. For me, FreeBSD is the HOST. > > > > For what its worth, the recently released nvidia driver improved > > something. SO FAR, disabling GL everywhere has stopped the freezes. I've > > been able to run > > all guests I have (one at a time for now) and none of them froze my host. > > My host and VM are FreeBSD. 8-STABLE for me runs fine with current nvidia > drivers installed with GL enabled. > > > Host: 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Thu Mar 11 14:45:20 CST 2010 > pkg_info |grep nvidia > nvidia-driver-195.22 NVidia graphics card binary drivers for hardware > OpenGL ren > > It is when I csup the VM to 8-STABLE the lockup occurs. > Understood now, Adam. I have no FBSD VM, but just about every other OS vms. LeoOSx, Win7(32&64), Several XPs, several 2003, Fedora and even an OS/2 warp. They all work. In fact, LeoOsx and Win7 (32) are up as I type this. The problem comes IF I change the rendering engine from Xrender to OpenGL. Or even if a GL screensaver kicks in. With OpenGL, Win7 freezes the host even before the login prompt, XP may run for 5 or 50 minutes and freeze, so does the all other OSes (except Fedora but it has no GUI) Here is my env: - Phenom II 955 black - 8G Ram - FreeBSD Papi 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0 r204106M: Tue Mar 16 23:17:32 UTC 2010 root@Papi:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LOBO amd64 <- csuped yesterday ! - (II) Mar 17 19:44:28 NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 9800 GT (G92) at(GPU-0) - (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 195.36.15 Fri Mar 12 08:49:20 posix/SystemV/PST 2010 <- compiled yesterday ! New release. - virtualbox-ose-devel-3.1.51.r27187 A general-purpose full virtualizer - virtualbox-ose-kmod-devel-3.1.51.r27187 VirtualBox kernel module for FreeBSD Latest port with Mac Support ! - KDE 4.3.5 Like I said on my last e-mail, The new driver improved on the old. With the 195.22 driver, the host would freeze even if I had Xrender enabled, and Lord knows how many syctl and boot tweaks I tried. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winfoes FREE)