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Date:      Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:32:26 -0500
From:      "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak@execpc.com>
To:        John Kenagy <jktheowl@bga.com>, Open Systems Networking <opsys@mail.webspan.net>
Cc:        questions freebsd <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet"
Message-ID:  <980410003226.ZM225@execpc.com>
In-Reply-To: John Kenagy <jktheowl@bga.com> "Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet"" (Apr 10, 12:01am)
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I like this guy.  He has the hair on your ass attitude to get the job done.  I
too am an "olde fart', haven't flogged many systems, but I understand
marketing.

One question, what the hell are you doing in Texas? If you were in the Mid-West
I'd like to work with you.

Regards,
Frank


On Apr 10, 12:01am, John Kenagy wrote:
> Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet"
> My response to everything bing said.
>
> Yesss!!! To all!!!
>
> I'm an olde fart ex-system flogger from way back. All of what everyone
> is saying is needed. It is marketing, marketing, marketing.... It does
> *not matter* how good your product is. You *will* be run over by a
> big marketing machine.
>
> But when it is real good, like FreeBSD, you do have something that
> treated right, could be a silver bullet.
>
> 1. Pedigree. When I got back to playing with computers & began looking
> about for something like vi to edit with under windows, I found Linux.
> "A unix like..." Then stumbled across FreeBSD, a joke? Well, reading
> further, I discovered emacs and a lot of other stuff I recognized.
> But, what pulled me in was the BSD pedigree, and that *alone*!
>
> I may get flamed for this but I cannot think of Linux as anything
> more than a cute little pc os. I don't run games. I *did* have to
> support customers whose livelyhood depended on their computers
> running every day - no exceptions. That meant a real OS with real
> depth.
>
> Any operating system whose kernel is controlled by one person,
> libraries provided by second, third, fourth parties or *whatever*,
> and applications from yet other sources, well that is a recipe
> for failure. I had to learn that lesson the hard way.
>
> Your operating system should be invisible, flawless, and
> d-e-p-e-n-d-a-b-l-e. This FreeBSD is a "lead pipe" cinch winner.
> I cannot say it has *ever* failed in almost two years of using it.
>
> I was one of the first AT&T value added resellers in Los Angeles.
> I cannot make the same claim of dependability about the SV based
> accounting systems we sold. Period.
>
> 2. Dependable. Users can be as "bleeding edge" or as conservative
> as they wish. Dependability is available with FreeBSD. Linux is...
> I'm not sure where. I think a mirage.
>
> So, you've got pedigree and dependability. You need suits. PR and
> an appeal to the conservative and corporate. I'm going to cast about
> here in Austin and see what I can discover.
>
> All I need is a heartbeat and a dialtone.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
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