From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 27 18:53:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04B5106568B for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:53:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f190.google.com (mail-iw0-f190.google.com [209.85.223.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99188FC23 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn28 with SMTP id 28so13820iwn.3 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:53:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=FESEXm2Hc6WZ2CsfG4vt70rjH2POyCpHwlYdlh2C+KI=; b=tq0doVxmRt749lAGERET+p6kH6/EfTvyEPa6Z+9l3QvEW4ClDVXBZ228uAjSpZFVcq t1x5K417EaxLoc5lvWJuSmxKqMGYITfZ/eVl4ogrNQkPMSoQtmfNixs4V6V+ZF/AQaks MOTqYly9lPt0Hr1l9t+wskSiDXBwCo05EgJS0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=cQzvE1JI8s+1OmKGR+3hWatGnD3aUS9U5MFLWTCjlXzpYY0kcb29Io1IPlaIoNFbWH y3iFqOvbTllVG3hDIGM4JU8B/m3aBxEt11xKeWk4c9VKctmhVbZNporWplyajx9ADdBV 35uR6djHqGnYWd2Pk/YwEVPp/KQ/V8Vm+2s7c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.5.79 with SMTP id 15mr1403759ibu.7.1256669638938; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:53:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200910270916.31033.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> References: <4AE5F897.3000103@rawbw.com> <200910270916.31033.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:53:58 -0700 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: Jonathan McKeown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:54:00 -0000 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 00:16, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: >> It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. >> >> How many people actually use it? Very few. >> Why isn't it moved to ports? > > What is this anti-sendmail obsession people have? > > Almost everyone I've ever spoken to about why they dislike sendmail trots out > a bunch of cliches based on sendmail 8.8. People, we're up to sendmail 8.14 > now. Get over it! > > Just as a matter of interest, if you want to rip sendmail out of the base > system, which MTA would you like to replace it with? Or are you suggesting > the system ship with no way to handle mail? I tried sendmail about 8 years ago. Don't know what the version was. Found it opaque and obscure. Went to Postfix, and have never looked back. Can't comment on sendmail's current state or practice, but postfix Just Works(tm) for me. Kurt