From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 18 07:28:03 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C9D2BFC1A for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 07:28:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic304-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic304-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.179.146]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4944LT5c4Bz3Bvy for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 07:28:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: XwEE0RoVM1kruJZUc7znPP5Qpqn9jGH9ymq052GMAPDd68YKCugX2LJ0Bx2jWBX QIyfvBvRrvJAgOX5z7iBtcgxjOs8GIPTfVzmuk6FUzbnIUasxcByfm7u0hVVcGwLN3AcoCM3FpST 9t38JhOukkUIx07Y1GbBuNGQv1dnd65Kt3dxOfk9jjCelPLZzm.VBHfrqg2C1wZ2J8TM7gdGMr2z ACpf9ptCLHlNPJrkzfkW1VPMSteXXrjQaD9Km2sAM3Dk1UYN3ennGAg9oGdLHJaPwE05nnAmRAYx oX.8NFk54it0rzaDZ7NU2BIEvelasqXGdUYtouPxtAxIQwyLNBIsmPansDxaAJge1L919HpJNylK VcnFmPQxzn8mZ0pAEBBqArny0F4t7zHykp1pIA7M8TRb5FA60gGF7H_9WcCOQaSy8tRtrT6NPFBD Nw7LXvSJgHi9b0heDbdks.78GkmRITw.olTRigOGaTML.Loi71L4wmMKeWanqfYxyoQzxMxW9bRc Lcp7.tBmOoV1Ji.scMW.CeNArhIEG45rF3GHTbI7HEbeIOcEcj3hjzNUwoaCXpWKo8Xer8UDuHMZ CfteT1daRzAwYYoHg5bRwhJcLzLdevo66Byv1Nqnqk2MVLs.f.mcCoCbhFCWOhriyFR57XjiTCuK _6QCRviVsCeWIdRY24UHwVPJzThU3DkI2XT.LHCqloan4i4Eof2iE8CYzg6xmy_H5LGIU.EUYANX CwvdbH3s0JPyFO2xUDONI38t7GiZVJk8U_tbvEEnT0UEvmJbRNUwuJPlEIAwvO2DmY70ZTnsdokE FayFD2959_y46m.5EolYDNvEQM0kh7CJk2N99YASx67fxi342PoP0yXw1oL7gidx0fltXChBzMqr cdSvuB3B.KiJmrgmDYx6gXc7y4iHYm_DGL0w9rC3qa1q3WqcLkb6ekNXpGOQqO.9en_A9BMhwdHD ACwiXeqJK2ERfhfTHfCMcp9gvv_xvV.9QO5lwUiTyjmX8oAOAsJmyvXKvb6.l6PDAJbTn8L2.sW7 t_0gYnKP0lh3K0SBorPTY0Cry5qhl1vP1igtsauF9aZLHL4BYtUGMfrBPqJj0hWAXZOgpN8M2dWO uFrTIjmD5DPNCrtb4i2KkrWKScxVUuTj.C.letTMViQr84ssMYi0ZK4UIhN1b1gqJj0OvzsbbV_g egFrHQNeE6iv75EDMsmrb7mBEHT1Piw9.uoAiNw9Igsf5LBJYt5r9JMxAowHuXRFmtUciMX1g39I bW9voybeogMJqEUfjQvqpegeoLlF8olmTzbiAT0fcQ97NWfprtLbJLLsJz04zgOzwg8g5OQSdjF9 tIhkutIcOoS9Xyrp47cnLKNUpPDynM1XDDZZzacKeo6bIyjlkHw-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic304.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 07:27:59 +0000 Received: by smtp418.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 65bae71a4f747a1e5582ff741377d4c6; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 07:27:57 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 09:28:01 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd should be rewritten based on microkernel architecture Message-ID: <20200418092801.20d10f5b@archlinux> In-Reply-To: References: <3f1496d1f598c84b3871b630f161256e152aca75.camel@tom.com> <681077991.2278153.1587146552233@mail.yahoo.com> <20200417213025.16ba5877.freebsd@edvax.de> <1659102270.119843446.1587168373188.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4944LT5c4Bz3Bvy X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.19 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.73)[-0.734,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.968,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[146.179.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (6.30), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.14), asn: 34010(1.69), country: GB(-0.07)]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[146.179.238.77.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 07:28:03 -0000 On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 20:50:09 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >And here goes the *ABSOLUTE* reason why no developer who ever hopes to >make any money at all from their work should *EVER* use GPL. You were already proven wrong! Let alone that you are defeated by a naive miscalculation. Business models based on secret recipes don't grant to earn money. Even without "reverse engineering"/" disassembling" the idea could be taken over. I don't clame that the GPL is better (or less good) as MIT, BSD or what ever else licenses. I only claim that you are spreading misinformation. There are reasons for different licenses, so it's important to understand those reasons. The problem you have got is, that you don't understand anything at all. Note, the world is not divided into Communists and Capitalists, or into idiots and people who know objective facts.=20 Since you don't understand the reasons and consequences of the different open source licenses, you might want to take a look at the Creative Commons, since it explains an open minded worldview beyond your Communist-Capitalist-idiots-misinterpreted-objective-facts crap. To some extend it also fits to open source software licensing. Broadly speaking the Creative Commons is spread into =E2=80=9CApproved for = Free Cultural Works=E2=80=9D and not =E2=80=9CApproved for Free Cultural Works= =E2=80=9D licensing. Programmers as well as artist could earn enough money to make a living from work, that is also available for free as in beer. Some programmers and artists even don't want to make money at all with their software or artwork. However, programmers or artists are free to strike out on their own. Users are free to do the same. We have the freedom of choice. The pitfall of this freedom is, that it's annoying to care about all the details. As for myself, my life is to short to even read all end-user licence agreements, let alone to entirely understand those I read. If a programmer wants to sell software, the business model could be to provide easy to understand end-user licence agreements, that give users advantages and a free open source code, that gives advantages to competitors. For artists there is the CreativeCommons, it's a construction kit. For coders there are different FLOSS licenses, all with their pros and cons. If you remove the different names of those FLOSS licenses, you could consider it a construction kit, too, comparable to the CreativeCommons construction kit.