From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 4 1:30:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D52337B43F for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 01:30:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f448Tom37498; Fri, 4 May 2001 10:29:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2639118CE2; Fri, 4 May 2001 10:29:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD22415919; Fri, 4 May 2001 10:29:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:29:49 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Terry Lambert , , Subject: Re: vector: 0x670 In-Reply-To: <20010502203706.E1339@freebie.demon.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all thanks a lot for yoyur valuable help. I Think it might be a problem due to over heating. I removed the dissipator and when I did it hte machine crashed after a few minutes with the machien check 0x670 error... I will change dissipator size and will add special glue for disipation between the CPU and dissipator and I will add a fan and let you know what is going to happen. Now hte CPU is so hot that Icannot even try to put my finger over it!! Rick On Wed, 2 May 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 20:37:06 +0200 > From: Wilko Bulte > To: Terry Lambert > Cc: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: vector: 0x670 > > On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 06:27:38PM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > 670 Processor Uncorrectable unrecoverable cache or TLB errors, or > > > read of a non-existent I/O space > > > > > > > > > Do you think it can be an error due to overheating or do I have to throw > > > my AlphaStation away ?? > > > > No quick answers, but some things to try, and some advice and > > opinions... > > > > > > A cache error means that the processor is bad, if it's L1 cache; > > this could be the result of overheating. If it's L2 cache, the > > cause could still be overheating, but I've seen a lot of people > > trying to use cache chips that were too slow. > > I don't recall which AS version this was, but most of the have > SMD soldered on caches. Some have cache modules, some cache SIMMs. > In case of cache modules of any shape or form please check if they > are seated well. > > > - If it's overheating, that's usually the result of overclocking, > > either intentionally, or unintentionally. Make sure you are not > > doing that. > > Easily tested by trying if your fingers get fried when touching the > heatsink. > > > You might also be using memory which is too slow, or has fake > > parity instead of real parity (don't do that). Slow memory > > tends to become more of an issue when you stick in a lot of it, > > since the DMA refresh doesn't get around to each bank in time; > > this is particularly problematic if you are doing heavy I/O, > > so that the memory bus is latched for DMA, and refresh is thus > > delayed really long due to bus hold times; this is usually > > possible to adjust in the drivers or controller configurations > > and is often called "bus on" time. > > *Very* unlikely. Alpha machines are built to really drive lots > of memory. Not this whimpy PC stuff that drives only 4 SIMMs/DIMMs > from a single ASIC. > > > - I've occasionally loaded a machine with too much memory for > > it to reasonably handle refresh, given the memory bus speed > > and the bus-on time for some PCI controllers (I had an Adaptec > > that was a bus hog; when I loaded the disk subsystem with the > > extra amount of RAM, the refresh failed, and the system lost > > its mind). > > Again, unlikely. > > > A TLB error means that the contents of a Translation Lookaside > > Buffer are incorrect. This could be a kernel bug. > > Or the CPU is dead/dying. Seen that before.. > > -- > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message