From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Dec 14 16:55:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from monorchid.lemis.com (monorchid.lemis.com [192.109.197.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A76337B416 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 16:55:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by monorchid.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 348B0786E4; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:25:39 +1030 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:25:39 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Brad Knowles Cc: Hiten Pandya , Terry Lambert , chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: IBM suing (was: RMS Suing was [SUGGESTION] - JFS for FreeBSD) Message-ID: <20011215112539.L85108@monorchid.lemis.com> References: <20011213093555.76629.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 14 December 2001 at 16:54:45 +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 1:35 AM -0800 on 2001/12/13, Hiten Pandya wrote: > >> It is better to port JFS then re-inventing the wheel, >> and we will get a lot of help from outsiders. > > True, but we already know what IBM's answer will be to this > question. Do we? Do we agree? Then why the following sentence? > Therefore, it makes little sense to waste our time asking it. Sure, just use it. > IMO, we'd be better off asking SGI (and their former employees) > about XFS. Or just come up with our own journaling filesystem that > is totally independant of the IBM code (satisfies the same design > goals at the highest level, but below that point shares no > specifications or implementation details). "Reinvent the wheel". > Indeed, I think we could safely argue that softupdates is a > long ways towards this goal as it is, and that in many ways it is > superior. Combine that with dirprefs and dirhash, and I see very > little reason to want JFS. Indeed. One of the reasons I'd like to see a JFS port is to be able to compare it with the current UFS. I really wouldn't like to bet on which one came out on top. But so far, we only have theoretical papers to base our opinions on. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message