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[67.81.251.147]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id q90sm26623687qgd.4.2014.11.14.03.38.24 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 14 Nov 2014 03:38:24 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: comments on code-in tasks for FreeBSD (Re: FreeBSD + Google Code-In 2014 = we need ideas.) From: Mark Saad X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12B411) In-Reply-To: <20141114092726.GH3196@straylight.m.ringlet.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 06:38:20 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <2FA736F4-8D06-4BBC-81DC-3E3A646BD391@me.com> <20141114092726.GH3196@straylight.m.ringlet.net> To: Peter Pentchev X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 12:59:18 +0000 Cc: Alan Somers , Rui Paulo , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , "Wojciech A. Koszek" , FreeBSD CURRENT , Luigi Rizzo X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:43:56 -0000 > On Nov 14, 2014, at 4:27 AM, Peter Pentchev wrote: >=20 >> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 07:55:16PM -0800, Rui Paulo wrote: >>> On Nov 13, 2014, at 17:40, Luigi Rizzo wrote: >>> But please nuke the current list -- it is completely inadequate >>> for the code-in candidates and misleading for whoever wants to >>> suggest new tasks. Again i am not saying that the projects >>> suggested there are not important, just belong somewhere else >>> e.g. gsoc. >>=20 I have a few ideas for younger and or less experienced google code in people= 1. Analyze the CD/USB install process .=20 Does the actual process match the guide and or general docs .=20 2. Analyze / comment on the automated install process "jumpstart ". Does the= guide and general docs match the actual process . 3. Test the virtual machine images as vagrant box images , and create vagran= t box images from the official vm images .=20 4. Create a script for the installer "bsd install" to use glabel to label gp= arts slices as /dev/label/$NAME=20 5. Test the ami images , again can the docs be improved are they accurate . The=20 Now let me preface the docs tasks , by no means am I saying that the docs te= am has made lots of mistakes and their work needs to be rechecked . The task= s are small enough that most high school aged people could grasp the issue, w= ith out any prior experience in BSD world . Rechecking the docs is always a g= ood idea .=20 They should allow the code in members to make some good contributions ; and m= aybe even some good improvements .=20 >> I refrained from voicing my opinion while the call for help was going >> on, but I completely agree that the target age of this Google initiative >> is inadequate to FreeBSD. The target population is 13 years to 17 years >> old and I cannot even imagine a 13 year old knowing what FreeBSD is. >=20 > ...and yet there was pat@ becoming a ports committer at the age of 16 > and chris@ becoming a docs committer at the age of 14 :) I think hmp@, > alepulver@, issyl0@ and jmallett@ were pretty young when they joined, > too. >=20 > Just an observation, I know that one or two isolated cases do not prove > a point :) >=20 > G'luck, > Peter >=20 > --=20 > Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@FreeBSD.org p.penchev@storpool.com > PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc > Key fingerprint 2EE7 A7A5 17FC 124C F115 C354 651E EFB0 2527 DF13 Mark saad | mark.saad@longcount.org=20=