From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 3 22:07:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB901065685; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal4.es.net [198.124.252.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8359A8FC0C; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by postal4.es.net (Postal Node 4) with ESMTP (SSL) id JCG75638; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:55:38 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 6F3114504E; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:55:37 -0700 (PDT) To: "Rob Lytle" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:28:50 PDT." <784966050807022128g6a6ebfebtc1f57c0da66779bc@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1215122137_50574P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:55:37 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20080703215537.6F3114504E@ptavv.es.net> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Mike Meyer , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:07:15 -0000 --==_Exmh_1215122137_50574P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline > Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:28:50 -0700 > From: "Rob Lytle" > Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org > > Hi All, > > I'm sorry I started a kind of flame war. All I wanted was two things: 1. > CD's that installed without being switched in and out dozens of times. That > was fixed by the suggestion of using a DVD. I didn't even know the DVD > install existed, but will do that next time. You call this a flame war? It's been pretty civil and there are no scorch marks on my display. I agree that the disk swapping is not a good thing, but I simply avoid it by never installing packages from sysinstall. I only use sysinstall for FreeBSD. Once I have FreeBSD installed, I update my ports tree with csup (but portsnap is probably a better way) and install ruby and portupgrade. Then I simply install the ports/packages I want using 'portinstall -P'. This assures that I have the latest ports and not something stale. I can speed the process by copying all of the packages from CD to my system (/usr/ports/packages/All). That way, only ports that have been updated since the release will be downloaded and I only have to change CDs a couple of times. > 2. Being able to use Sysinstall and not having it crash when a dependency > is already present. Sometimes I like to use Sysinstall to install gigantic > packages where the compile time is 26 hours, e.g KDE metapackage, and my > notebook uses an Intel Core 2 Duo at 2Ghz or thereabout. That is one hell > of a long compile time. For this request I will just have to wait for > FreeBSD 10.0. I have not seen this, but I don't sue sysinstall to install packages/ports. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 --==_Exmh_1215122137_50574P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 06/03/2002 iD8DBQFIbUrZkn3rs5h7N1ERAueoAJ97OM7ukkvgyB8g6GKyXQqb3llYOwCdFOWb VeJSQh+TendhnsxT3t/1rd4= =uYML -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1215122137_50574P--