From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 21 14:37:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA22166 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:37:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateway.skipstone.com (root@GATEWAY.SKIPSTONE.COM [198.214.10.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA22159 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:37:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from bugs.skipstone.com (bugs.skipstone.com [204.69.236.2]) by gateway.skipstone.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA07467; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:36:47 -0600 Received: from [204.69.236.50] (hotapplepie.skipstone.com [204.69.236.50]) by bugs.skipstone.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA30472; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:36:37 -0600 X-Sender: rkw@mail.dataplex.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199611212141.OAA12035@rocky.mt.sri.com> References: <199611212046.NAA13887@phaeton.artisoft.com> <199611211714.SAA01528@ravenock.cybercity.dk> <199611212046.NAA13887@phaeton.artisoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:36:35 -0600 To: Nate Williams From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: Who needs Perl? We do! Cc: Terry Lambert , hackers@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Richard was completely free to do what he wanted to do, but he wasn't >going to get the 'blessing' of anyone until he had a working prototype >that was at least as good as the current system. As I have pointed out a number of times, as I understand your "rules", it is not reasonable to even attempt this. There are EXTENSIVE changes which must be made. If I am shooting at a moving target, I'll never be able to catch up. Since I do not feel that "stopping everyone else" is a reasonable request, I advocate "incremental" steps. Unfortunately, to those who do not see the complete picture, those steps will be "steps backward" until the final piece is in place. As I interpret the mood of the "core", that is unacceptable. Therefore, I can only conclude that it is impossible for it to happen within the current framework.