From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 5 18:16: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 365AE37B406 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2001 18:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mkc-65-31-219-45.kc.rr.com (HELO yahoo.com) (65.31.219.45) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2001 01:16:00 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <3B96CE4F.2060900@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 20:15:59 -0500 From: Jim Bryant Reply-To: kc5vdj@yahoo.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: Terry Lambert , Samuel Tardieu , Daniel Capo Sobral , Mike Smith , Kazutaka YOKOTA , dcs@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: ACPI CHANGES AFFECTING MOST -CURRENT USERS References: <200109032330.f83NU9n02241@mass.dis.org> <200109041248.f84CmOa21358@mail.tcoip.com.br> <20010905092840.B96880@dragon.nuxi.com> <2001-09-05-18-58-33+trackit+sam@inf.enst.fr> <3B967751.9DD98315@mindspring.com> <20010905121236.B1047@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:04:49PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > >>Samuel Tardieu wrote: >> >>>Or why is BSD make used when the vast majority of Free Software developpers >>>use GNU make? >>> >>1) It actually works >> > > You forgot the syntax is nearly the same as GNU Make. > (or rather both accept nearly the same syntax as the original Bell Labs > make(1)). > > In the case of forth, the interpreter will accept nothing that looks even > vaguely simular to C/C++, FORTRAN, bourne shell, awk, or perl. FORTH is a pain in the ass, it's a bastardized and seldom-used language, but it does have one strong advantage in a boot-loader situation: it's tiny, and relatively easy to implement. It's been a very long time since FORTRAN fit in 4k, I don't think C ever did, bourne relies too much on external programs [/bin/test, etc], awk is too limited, and using perl would be akin to using winblowz as a bootloader [bLOAt].... I haven't used FORTH since my VIC-20 days, but if you can use an HP calculator, you can probably pick up the basics of FORTH over a weekend. If you can do PostScript, then you can probably pick it up in an evening. jim -- ET has one helluva sense of humor! He's always anal-probing right-wing schizos! -------------------------------------------- POWER TO THE PEOPLE! _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message