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Date:      Tue, 22 Aug 2000 23:28:21 +0200
From:      Mipam <mipam@ibb.net>
To:        Lowell Gilbert <lowell@world.std.com>
Cc:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: icmptypes
Message-ID:  <20000822232821.D633@ibb0021.ibb.uu.nl>
In-Reply-To: <rd6r97htjei.fsf@world.std.com>; from lowell@world.std.com on Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 11:17:25AM -0400
References:  <20000821180351.H57333@jade.chc-chimes.com> <20000821181825.I57333@jade.chc-chimes.com> <rd6r97htjei.fsf@world.std.com>

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> Dropping packets is never a violation of the protocol spec.  Returning
> ICMP "unreachable" errors in response to other ICMP packets would be.
> This is an important distinction.  [It's also what Rodney Grimes
> actually said.]
> 

Hmmm,
Normally when you ping for example a host on another network which
isnt up, the router in between wil return icmp unreach to you.
However, When you return an icmp unreach with source ip from the
host which is supposed to be down, it's a little bit strange indeed :)

And indeed, blocking all icmp types is far from optimal.
Some choose to do so and take the inconveniences which come with it,
personally i dont. But then again, some also choose to deny all packets
with any ip option in it, causing problems for traceroute and such.
So, it's also a bit personal choice. Same with fragmented packets.
Of course, when reply's are given which are a violation to the protocol
specs, then it's bad.
Bye,

Mipam.


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