From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 19:54:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE1916A400 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2007 19:54:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EEDA13C46C for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2007 19:54:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id u2so991870uge for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:54:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=p3DeTh5s5Y8fZv5WqdAjLbzKcV5gI+TYtADbrUhptYg8BgtBiT+ePHT4Lmcbb4XBxgqDOl/rLCZ24oWbff3i+lcjVpQ7y8tl7yvtj7+7VPnxaYYYIy0VfWVBNbNqEEsc4bd/h+Ih/noprGsA7JJ00+c0V6X4JOprOf0sVAM1uxg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qeVFiHEgypB2NC4xE1mK8FuhGorLeCk+zX2VPXg9Pkb16rbFuhoAHErXJVt8d6F9Xvid0ZtODJFwQFTC7gzdv1DvqWp8FN97RRlSJyj+slbt7C+Wgb4BvVhp+of8woplGxBIsIy8PYJZWZNvuCZs6gv5+3vImbqx8kC2l+uj+fo= Received: by 10.66.221.19 with SMTP id t19mr3346914ugg.1180986891092; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.24.16 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jun 2007 12:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3aaaa3a0706041254r257e1480g872faa6e504df6dc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 20:54:50 +0100 From: Chris To: "Colin Percival" In-Reply-To: <4664572A.4060003@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <466451CA.6020108@tundraware.com> <4664572A.4060003@freebsd.org> Cc: Tim Daneliuk , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New != Faster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:54:55 -0000 On 04/06/07, Colin Percival wrote: > Tim Daneliuk wrote: > > Old 2 PIII @600Mhz 768K 26M/sec 4.11-stable/SMP > > 50-60 min > > New Pent D (2 core)@3.2GHz 2G 50M/sec 6.2-stable/SMP > > 40-50 min > > Fast 2 Xeon @3GHz 3G 130M/sec 4.11-stable/SMP > > 8 min > > > > Is the difference in speed > > attributable to 4.11 being faster than 6.2? > > Close. The difference in speed is due to the compiler in 4.11 being > faster than the compiler in 6.2. FreeBSD uses the gcc compiler, and > between FreeBSD 4.11 and FreeBSD 6.2 that has been upgraded from 2.9 > to 3.4. The general trend each time gcc is upgraded is that it takes > 2x longer to compile code, but produces code which is 5% faster (as a > result of "working harder" to find optimizations). > > FreeBSD 6.2 is faster than FreeBSD 4.11 for almost everything except > compiling itself. :-) > > Colin Percival > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > What about all the following observations? slower network performance in 6.x especially worse under DDOS conditions. slower disk performance especially under QUOTA. both of these have been confirmed numerous times by different people so sweeping them under the carpet and saying they simply not true would be wrong. My observation of 6.x is that whilst it can exceed 4.11 performance this is only because of more more powerful hardware and in particular on SMP systems where 4.11 isnt optimised but for UP and most older hardware the worst performance of post 4.11 is highlighted greatly. In thoery shouldnt eg. a 6.2 system using a 3ghz core 2 duo be multiple times faster then a pentium 3 500 running freebsd 4.11 due to the more powerful hardware? Chris