From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 14:28:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66142106566B for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:28:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmh.aybabtu@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316808FC1A for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:28:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwr19 with SMTP id 19so4753274iwr.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:28:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=zyWiItSWHyQqiqkc3krb1piCxyjj1CunHPrLMr3q2yU=; b=kWFqLq6lfvdXcJ7jvbuSUuQ4Ce9EmEvPMDsPGNz7MWXaOTmDGsSxCczs9Y89Xd3xzB OVfQOT7jcTEmqFbphukr2EOQo/6MGnEHViebWehrSh5/hYqczmf592RAQIz9u3WZ0GSv wPvbGNttYH6furwjIuRtfIxcPLwK6qrCP7o5g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.1.74 with SMTP id 10mr5310100icf.86.1310392946011; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:02:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: rmh.aybabtu@gmail.com Received: by 10.42.229.3 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:02:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110711133342.GT43872@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: <20110711123332.GS43872@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <20110711133342.GT43872@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:02:25 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9M5zRDd6S4ZT7R0oKuN8Xzcpyf8 Message-ID: From: Robert Millan To: Kostik Belousov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:25:55 +0000 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, Petr Salinger Subject: Re: [PATCH] Improve LinuxThreads compatibility in rfork() X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:28:49 -0000 2011/7/11 Kostik Belousov : > I shall state that the sig == SIGCHLD case is ugly. Having the separate > flag "do not send signal to the parent" would be much less clumsy. > What are the requirements for the ABI stability for Debian/kFreeBSD ? > Can this be fixed now, or is it too late ? Perhaps we could make a smooth transition by implementing both methods on our kernel, then update glibc to use the new one, and only remove the deprecated method in our kernel after a full release cycle. Petr, do you think this could fly? We'd be breaking backward compatibility in userland, but if I understand correctly we do this already and our only supported upgrade path is "first upgrade kernel, then userland" anyway. -- Robert Millan