From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 15 23:30:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDEED1065672 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:30:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hhw@pce-net.com) Received: from van-mx-1.mx.peer1.net (smtp.peer1.com [69.90.111.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00478FC1B for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [64.34.104.10] by van-mx-1.mx.peer1.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NKg6k-0003K7-Q7 for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:43:06 -0800 Message-ID: <4B2810FA.2050100@pce-net.com> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:43:06 -0800 From: Han Hwei Woo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org References: <541b7a870912150733m4bc34148j98790a6142d4521c@mail.gmail.com> <1260900906.3947.11.camel@earth.sol> In-Reply-To: <1260900906.3947.11.camel@earth.sol> X-SA-Do-Not-Run: Yes X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 64.34.104.10 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: hhw@pce-net.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on van-mx-1.mx.peer1.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: why BSDs got no love X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:30:22 -0000 1. Graphical installers don't work over serial consoles. 2. There is a live CD. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/8.0/8.0-RELEASE-i386-livefs.iso . Use FreeSBIE if you need a live cd with a graphical environment. 3. mount -t ext2fs Peer Schaefer wrote: > I disagree (partially). > > 1st: PCBSD has a graphical installer. But I don't think a graphical > installer is needed. An installer with a curses-like menu-driven > interface is sufficient for most techy users (and face it: aunt Jamie is > not the target audience for *BSD). But I admit that some menus of the > *BSD installers are a little bit cryptic. The installer also lacks a > good help facility. Perhaps it needs a little polishing. > > 2nd: The lack of a live CD is a real problem. A live CD is crucial for > testing hardware compatibility and for data rescue (accessing a UFS > formatted BSD-slice from a Linux live CD should be theoretically > possible, but I never got it working). > > 3rd: *BSD is a great server OS. It tried to switch my desktop machine > too, but in the end two problems blocked that: (a) Automounting USB > media never worked really good. (b) I have large amount of data on > ext2/ext3 formatted media. I can't convert them online to UFS, and I > never got the ext2/ext3 fs-driver for *BSD to correct work. > > Conclusion: A graphical installer is a nice add-on, but no must-have. An > curses-like interface is ok. But perhaps the installer needs some > polishing. The lack of a live CD is a real problem. And for desktop > usage *BSD needs working automounting and a good ext2/ext3 driver. > > Best wishes, > --Peer > > > Am Dienstag, den 15.12.2009, 16:33 +0100 schrieb Jan Husar: > >> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=1123&tag=nl.e011 >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >