From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 2 9:13:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.screaming.net (smtp.screaming.net [212.49.224.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D21737BB9F for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:13:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bigotfo@bigfoot.com) Received: from lexx.my.domain (dyn4-118-ras56.screaming.net [212.188.155.118]) by smtp.screaming.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA02436 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:16:07 GMT From: John Murphy To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: 4.1, UK keyboards (long rant) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:13:26 +0100 Organization: The Organisation Reply-To: bigotfo@bigfoot.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.6/32.525 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org =46reeBSD 4.1 Release. I was trying to get my UK keyboard to work properly with XFree86 4, but that is another story... I found that I just couldn't get a =A3 (shift 3) to display. Using any UK keymap, the keystroke just produced a beep (bell). Any other keymap and the key produced a # or another character. I checked on a 3.2 machine and found a pound sign. Set the console settings to the same as the 3.2 box - ditto. Swopped drives around so that 4.1 ran on the same hardware - No =A3 ! Checked the mappings for shift 3 for differences between 3.2 and 4.1 Both map it to 163 (IIRC). Tried some other fonts and found 9 SWISS (English, better resolution) beautifully clear, and /stand/sysinstall looks good with it, so this has _not_ been a waste of time. I ran an editor, to put some notes together about this strange - bug? Pressed shift 3 and NO BEEP but an accented u character that I've seen in place of pound signs in .uk newsgroups occasionally. So; the problem is only shell related dawned upon me, and I remembered that 4.1 now defaults to tcsh not csh. Ran tcsh on 3.2, pressed shift 3 and BEEP. Went to bed. There is no reason I can think of why anyone would need to use a pound sign in the shell, but it is possible to touch a file in csh with the '=A3' character therein (it appears as a question mark when listed). Difficult to remove it with tcsh. This is no place for technical questions, but: if anyone knows what I could use to replace the actual accented u, displayed with the SWISS font, with a proper uk pound sign, or would like to do it... John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message