From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Dec 19 23:26:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp004pub.verizon.net (smtp004pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.183]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EAF137B41B for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:26:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from gte.net (evrtwa1-ar4-4-34-145-186.evrtwa1.dsl.gtei.net [4.34.145.186]) by smtp004pub.verizon.net with ESMTP ; id fBK7QXJ09633 Thu, 20 Dec 2001 01:26:33 -0600 (CST) Received: (from res03db2@localhost) by gte.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA77112; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:27:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from res03db2@gte.net) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:27:25 -0800 From: Robert Clark To: Terry Lambert Cc: Brett Glass , Nils Holland , Jeremy Karlson , Craig Harding , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GPL nonsense: time to stop Message-ID: <20011219232725.A77082@darkstar.gte.net> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011217222907.028403b0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20011218095233.028ea920@localhost> <20011218193510.A23697@tisys.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20011218124903.02874100@localhost> <3C1FA2CC.B0CDD474@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <3C1FA2CC.B0CDD474@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 12:10:52PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After reading about the company with the divx codec that was had to face the GPL issue, I began to wonder: Their solution seemed to be making two halves of the program. One piece that involved GPL code, and one that did not, and then having the two pieces do IPC. If for whatever reason, JFS ended up getting ported to FreeBSD, could we construct a GPL-safe sandbox for things like a FS implementation to live in? If a JFS implementation was a userland process, would the kernel be safe? (I'm thinking about BeOS.) On a different note: I've been playing with SMP (bp6) systems for a while, and with the hurdles that SMP faces, I begin to wonder about an other question. Would it be practical to run two different OS on two CPU on the same box? FreeBSD aside Linux for example? or Windows along side FreeBSD? Or more likely, a low latency optimized GUI on one CPU and a more or less normal kernel on the other. (The MS snake is shorter than it used to be. (The end of support on products like W95 is going to push people forward.) With all of the stuff that MS is leveraging into W2k and beyond, FreeBSD may need to get innovative to hold its relative position as a technical and architectural leader.) Thanks, [RC] On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 12:10:52PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > Brett Glass wrote: > > Dare we risk this? Remember, the FSF owns the code 100%. If Richard > > and Brad say that it to be licensed in a particular way it does > > not matter what anyone else would like. Their recent remarks suggest > > that they are merely waiting for what they feel is an opportune > > moment. They have stated, in a recent interview posted on Slashdot, > > the FSF's official stance: that programmers should not be ALLOWED to > > publish code under any license other than the GPL. > > Too late, we already have the old code under the old license; we > can just fork their project on them, if it comes down to a license > change. > > -- Terry > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message