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Date:      Sun, 5 Oct 1997 18:46:44 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Tom <tom@uniserve.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
Cc:        phk@critter.freebsd.dk, sthaug@nethelp.no, jas@flyingfox.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Which PCI Ethernet card is best for FreeBSD-current?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.971005184324.10864o-100000@shell.uniserve.com>
In-Reply-To: <199710060125.SAA02857@usr05.primenet.com>

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On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Terry Lambert wrote:

> > > > >However, currently ethernet interfaces that do not have carrier/link
> > > > >active, still show us UP.  I wish that loss of carrier/link would force
> > > > >the interface into a DOWN state automatically.  I realize this would
> > > > >require some driver changes.
> > > > 
> > > > Well, go for it :-)
> > > 
> > > Question: If I DOWN an interface, do that effect its own transmission
> > > of carrier/link?
> > 
> >   I think this is rather silly.  You can't even control this on most
> > cards.  They transmit carrrier from power-up till power-off.  I don't see
> > any sense in it all.
> > 
> >   A configured ethernet device should always be attempting to get link.
> > It would be nice if this link state was reflectetd in the interface state.
> 
> If it's DOWN, what happens to the link state?

  Nothing.  It is only DOWN if link/carrier is lost.  If carrier/link is
lost, set interface to DOWN.  If carrier/link resumes set interface to UP.

> Are you only considering 10bT here?

  Even 10b5 can detect loss of carrier, perhaps not all adapters.

> 					Terry Lambert
> 					terry@lambert.org
> ---
> Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
> or previous employers.
> 
> 

Tom




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