From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 18 16:17:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84431065670 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:17:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artemb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C29A8FC18 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so831830vws.13 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 09:17:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dMTgsL6s4qYQtGOQvC9TXsIWxm/kQDutzRpAXiQxmbk=; b=XbIGT67fo90YUxab9dnj+KwO1kdEr26PhQELkQwEwbU8RJiqDrTN4l6wm5l7dythpI JWW6ojH9pVEtPchLW2+rZp0JEJSlnNL66M/YjaAb+1B7tCUYW5vdQTRMgQi0PbgRMfbG sB/tO+K2p7Ei1e3rla1EIqJGCoWO5O/OBeXvI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=G7pQQ350u1JfC04VuoE3iOXVp8Oq8cW+uAszkpYF3pjESNELtDsD1OjhHnM9mLkOsf XmvASPiET1VQHp526Hw2dCqe5CJDhSZN6ZCwi3EkUGrZst0rJP+s4DQxTnD/FTZ9kZc3 XUvMHbA1wPZumLuynCe8x3261sPe9zcI/5jJI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.59.202 with SMTP id m10mr5075059vch.188.1282146709118; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 08:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Sender: artemb@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.49.70 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 08:51:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100818125447.GR44426@e-Gitt.NET> References: <4C6ABD04.3030506@delphij.net> <20100818125447.GR44426@e-Gitt.NET> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 08:51:48 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dqUNH1kBqYqAH8czN0lMTptXieo Message-ID: From: Artem Belevich To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: ZFS will gone,FreeBSD will import btrfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:17:10 -0000 > So all we need to direct some of the money we already spend for > supporting developers and certain developments to core ZFS developers no > longer employed by Sun/Oracle and that way make FreeBSD the primary ZFS > development platform for the future. If you have the key developers, the > community will follow. > I'd argue that we'll need pjd@ more than ever. I don't think that ex-OpenSolaris contributors are going to jump to FreeBSD. There's project Illumos which is essentially an OpenSolaris fork minus binary-only bits. My guess is that it's got a decent chance to become a viable OpenSolaris replacement. Interestingly enough, Illumos plans to import FreeBSD drivers (and some utils) to replace closed-source ones that used to come from Solaris. --Artem On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:54 AM, Oliver Brandmueller wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 09:47:00AM -0700, Xin LI wrote: >> It's not "gone" since Oracle can not withdraw code that is already >> licensed under CDDL. =A0They _may_ choose not to release anything new bu= t >> we already have a newer zfs version that have basic functionality usable >> in p4. > > So all we need to direct some of the money we already spend for > supporting developers and certain developments to core ZFS developers no > longer employed by Sun/Oracle and that way make FreeBSD the primary ZFS > development platform for the future. If you have the key developers, the > community will follow. > > Before someone starts argueing... I know, it's not that easy and I don't > have a clue how one would do that. This is most probably more like a > crazy idea than a plan that could actually work :-/ > > - Oliver > > -- > | Oliver Brandmueller =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://sysadm.in/ =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 ob@sysadm.in | > | =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Ich bin das Internet. So= wahr ich Gott helfe. | >