Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 11:26:53 +0100 From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> To: Erik Cederstrand <erik@cederstrand.dk>, Ulrich =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sp=F6rle?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?in?= <uqs@freebsd.org> Cc: mdf@freebsd.org, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Schedule for releases Message-ID: <xeia8vzi3xxu.fsf@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <DB4D8AC7-25D6-4901-BBF9-77BEB956840B@cederstrand.dk> (Erik Cederstrand's message of "Wed, 22 Dec 2010 08:21:56 %2B0100") References: <AANLkTi=_mHDz3LZ1SAuCsz6kmvqCdZBx3Q5ZTyQQO1%2BP@mail.gmail.com> <201012211500.16131.jhb@freebsd.org> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1012212215320.36028@fledge.watson.org> <DB4D8AC7-25D6-4901-BBF9-77BEB956840B@cederstrand.dk>
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On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 08:21:56 +0100, Erik Cederstrand <erik@cederstrand.dk> wrote:
>Den 21/12/2010 kl. 23.28 skrev Robert Watson:
>> Looking at 7.x, I'm struck by how much it has slowed down. There's a
>> significant user community, but not a significant developer community.
>
> Which pretty much sums up a dilemma in the development of FreeBSD, I
> think. Developers want users to try out their new shiny stuff, but
> users don't want to spend time upgrading.
>
> I think one of many things that would be great to do is to improve the
> usability and coverage of the regression tests. This would take at
> least some of the burden off developers who want to MFC their work. We
> already have the tinderboxes, Coverity and Clang Static Analyzer, but
> apart from pho's stress tests we don't have any automated runtime
> testing (as far as I know).
Having a good automated testing suite is something that's been bugging
me for a while. We might have one in early 2011 though.
I've recently finished porting ATF from NetBSD to stable/8 and uploaded
most of the work at bitbucket:
https://bitbucket.org/keramida/atf-stable8/
Most of the atf-xxx tools work 'ok', but there are still a few rough
edges to think about and patch into the ATF tools. Then I'm going
forward to /head during the next couple of weeks.
During the first 2-3 months of 2011, I'll be able to bring over most of
the automated tests from NetBSD and then write a few more for our own
code. Having a 'unified' approach to testing, e.g. the ability to patch
usr.bin/foo/Makefile and add something like:
TESTS?= tests/foo_startup \
tests/foo_socket \
tests/foo_stuff
is something I've been talking about with uqs@. I'll definitely feel
really awesome if we can run, for example, something like:
cd /usr/src && make test
to generate a nice, automated test report for the entire src/ codebase.
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