From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Mar 11 13: 6: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267FE37BAC9 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 13:06:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6797B1C5D; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:06:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:06:00 -0500 From: Bill Fumerola To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Ted Sikora , "freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD dead ? Message-ID: <20000311160600.H25438@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <38CA7790.8B31B082@home.com> <3272.952797590@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3272.952797590@zippy.cdrom.com>; from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com on Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 09:59:50AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 09:59:50AM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I am sure of the FreeBSD Projects intentions but like the previous post > > things can 'turn ugly fast with the greatest intentions' The fact a > > for-profit company controlling it's movements is cause for concern. > > How many different ways can we say this? THE COMPANY DOES NOT CONTROL > THE FREEBSD PROJECT'S MOVEMENTS. It can't! A little perspective for the naysayers: I do not work for Walnut Creek. I am a FreeBSD committer, I could call Bob Bruce, Pat Reitz, or BSDI high level people and tell them off and curse and swear or talk about their mothers. I would still be a FreeBSD committer. BSDI/WC can't take that away. (I'd imagine Jordan would be pissed, but I'm trying to prove a point, work with me..). WC/BSDI could take away the bandwidth. WC/BSDI could take away the hosting of servers, there are a ton of people with servers and bandwidth that would take over exactly what hub/freefall/bento/etc do right now. The USWest machines are living proof of that. I'd even venture to say that Jordan (and core) already have contingent plans for such a "disaster". Is it true that FreeBSD has benefited because of Walnut Creek's financial backing, yes. Is it also true that so many people are involved with FreeBSD who work for companies MUCH larger then WC that similar arrangements coudld be made quickly, yes. Is it true that when all 185+ committers and the thousands of submitters/developers saw that something bad happened that they would just keep on truckin' with the relocated FreeBSD machines, yes. FreeBSD is the community, not the physical machines that host it. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect Computer Horizons Corp - CVM e-mail: billf@chc-chimes.com / billf@FreeBSD.org Office: 800-252-2421 x128 / Cell: 248-761-7272 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message