From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 19:44:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCB2106564A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artemb@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BDE8FC13 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artemb@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so3271618fkk.11 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:44:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=z+9RbfJtFEFbzdRKKfg6lvWb6Pqp1rnJAPVaE3S/9iY=; b=I3N9vjrHyAeg5pk0fjmXK1OC7fVE7Y/e5RKYGq3jIU34MlY1pQSdog5ieO8R4I+Tea IVe1CPnFgnorxwjv3P0EDGyovw9DXus8SjgAtQVfgZhpd6zWvb7LgSJ9JcAe5o6w67Rz rqnSPXu1rA1HtmF2F4SoXtD3StkNVbioZo5hk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=iCCBkC/OfS8nR175ns+b7gqU+8Mcq+QXckvUJVhFbuo6YO9XuawQy7PYVUc3Y1Z9JS w77sH0Dxw9T20BtIZCQUPxNCW0DXevDIsjyh1BHn7Bg+jxwGL0aUIpVSTUzD/ECa7XhE ciiFe5CxWuXxF5QhL9xbqf3u+D3i0HCcGahBs= Received: by 10.181.144.11 with SMTP id w11mr4758498bkn.81.1228333455240; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:44:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.21.8 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:44:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:44:15 -0800 From: "Artem Belevich" Sender: artemb@gmail.com To: "Joe Kelsey" In-Reply-To: <4936D0C2.2090306@zircon.seattle.wa.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081128234155.0221e263@serene.no-ip.org> <4930D7CE.4080909@psg.com> <20081202220643.72eb52a3@serene.no-ip.org> <4936D0C2.2090306@zircon.seattle.wa.us> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0443cb919fdf4e18 Cc: Randy Bush , "Conrad J. Sabatier" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i give up X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:44:17 -0000 > Second, DO NOT use motherboards with built-in video. These are almost > always nvidia chipsets and suffer from the nvidia problem. Also, the video > is crappy and buggy. I'd not discount them all as a class. Intel's built-in G33/G35 with recent DRM and x86-video-intel driver seem to work pretty well for accelerated 2D on the few boxes I have under FreeBSD-8/amd64. I even get 3D working on occasion. :-) --Artem