From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 1 11:17:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A59B1065674 for ; Thu, 1 May 2008 11:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amsibamsi@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EEE8FC46 for ; Thu, 1 May 2008 11:17:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amsibamsi@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so1140508fge.35 for ; Thu, 01 May 2008 04:17:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; bh=S3A9OlInnGuk7KOsnnfKiypuJ/8lcl2tmOnU3ukK0HM=; b=i8ieB9HQpp0qIVpIIMEKKFzvRyeSSBk1Ngk0vgMhXLb2OV2Z4pXX6l2lMhWxBgZ0i/zmi1KJWvciPWc+OrpRWQIpaYDoFUIiOZRVHXBQWeHEJUEpefNqnJQyu+fQsbzIjpFhM0E7hryvVlxYg37b5D421w6la8fFHNY4T7o73pI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=KgKZSeQuJfvtjXGNVYEHBPzPevFr9XhIeBfHprhq8rnhBwr80vyjqcdXiefPdaMjYH5/bEVXfnsQRFC5WZEPQPuHCPjNsj8iRmDQ3B8nj5kcZYhidI06clHbojwa0LH2GHmfkI4wReFSQTq5KtNI1gVFoHPZYkmubUqgbdD8fcY= Received: by 10.86.77.5 with SMTP id z5mr3074474fga.42.1209640629198; Thu, 01 May 2008 04:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from marvelman.marvels.xx ( [77.57.75.125]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l19sm1308179fgb.9.2008.05.01.04.17.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 01 May 2008 04:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Anselm Strauss To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:17:03 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Subject: 7.0-RELEASE + newer kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 11:17:16 -0000 So, I'm one of those trying to run FreeBSD on one of the newest Macbooks. The hardware support looks very good, except that the network chips are not supported. But the Ethernet chip is supported by the msk driver in the current 7.0-STABLE kernel. Now, before I push the whole system from RELEASE to STABLE, is there some chance I can stay with 7.0-RELEASE and just use a new version of the msk module with the release kernel? I compiled the miibus.ko and if_msk.ko modules from a stable kernel, but the latter complains about an undefined symbol 'm_collapse' at loading. This symbol is defined in sys/kern/uipc_mbuf.c, so I think I have bad chances running the new driver on the old kernel. The reasons why I hesitate to upgrade to 7.0-STABLE are: - freebsd-update won't work anymore. How do I then get informed about security updates? - Can't install distributions with sysinstall anymore. Do I just compile everything from source? - How do I actually update from release to stable? I have to compile everything myself from the sources, right? As well as for any update? Thanks for any suggestions, Anselm