From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 19 16:57:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 608F3B5C for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x22d.google.com (mail-ig0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DF6BF54 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f173.google.com with SMTP id a13so45525537igq.0 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 08:56:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=U2QtvRNfPgSKNeSF63/+sW6FV/9nXmBjFHK+McAXCqM=; b=VKQ5mJ/TCF4g9nlnn23646z7JibdERV9/oEmBBuXkSNDehSudldtF42TC4xdsEwS53 2sPXq4MrfvN7MhFz3Hgj04cDZOO5A45uBmT6lfhgFAHzTJvslhTTIQwBNXeBW8SCcXGW 3ij/+FWDns23hMa9C/yRVpnn4vWDh3g3D3QTgmIAUgmAXAsibOKODcpncLS8RmtZY6mU KIteJi+jbUo6NLjwIM8xk3kx0R4aTk5lmj4beNoNCnhBerE2EFj6H5HzS6nb95gbV9Ik M6LAY71asBJpSz0OfDY2YzsS74ZQCDq+2yKzODMmrBfWeu7nWeEF9wiucombAjOUCwvK KxpQ== X-Received: by 10.50.78.9 with SMTP id x9mr5715749igw.44.1424365019478; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 08:56:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([2601:7:6c80:6f00::baff]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id yq1sm14183914igb.21.2015.02.19.08.56.58 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 19 Feb 2015 08:56:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54E615D9.6070600@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 09:56:57 -0700 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's in my hard drive? How can I get rid of it? References: <54E39F83.70002@gmail.com> <54E3BEBA.1060801@gmail.com> <20150218183222.2d09d17f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150218185708.47f7f805@archlinux> <20150218183815.GB26575@neutralgood.org> <20150218203703.5d260b53@archlinux> <20150219131527.ddda246b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150219131527.ddda246b.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:57:00 -0000 On 02/19/2015 05:15 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:37:03 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> RFIDs can't directly control our minds, but it's too funny, a RFID >> could be everywhere in our closes, soles etc. and we wouldn't notice >> it. > Unless we use proper testing equipment and a microwave oven. :-) > > > >> I'm one of those who don't need a mobile. I simply mean it word >> by word, "I don't need it" and that's the reason that I don't carry a >> mobile wherever I am. However, I'm aware that in my pocket are several >> cards with RFID, so theoretically it's possible to follow ever step I >> make in the same way, as it is possible to spy people who carry a >> handy 24/7. > Because it is possible, it HAS BEEN DONE. Allow me to provide > you with one example (not new): > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/21/schoolgirl_expelled_rfid_chip/ > > http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/11/student-suspension/ > > But it's not that RFID is "evil" per se, or useless. As someone > said, it's a tool, and a tool does what its master (in whose hands > it becomes "alive") decides: > > http://www.extremetech.com/electronics/141277-stop-worrying-and-embrace-rfid > > Like this: > > http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/12/citywide-rfid-master-house-key-already-broken/ > > It's not even funny anymore. > > > >> Indirectly this information could be used to have >> impact to everybody, you and me. > Consider side effects, not just with RFID, but with almost > every other technology. You don't carry a smartphone. But > the guy next to you does, and it's a bug which is now in > his pocket while you sit at the conference table and discuss > a confidential deal. Maybe you have an old phone with no > camera. But the woman across the street has, and while she > takes a photo of a nearby fountain, your face + her location > are being uploaded to the cloud for further processing. > > You cannot be "safe" (whatever you want to understand by > that word). By NO means. No matter what you do, it's impossible > > > >> The most dangerous isn't collecting data, aren't RFIDs etc., the most >> dangerous is that in school they still teach by the left brain/verbal >> approach, while we are living in a medial/right brain/visually world. > Except maybe the visually challenged people (vision impaired > or blind)... > > > >> Less people are educated to handle multimedia in a reflective way. > People are educated to _not_ reflect about anything. > > > >> Western education just teaches how to use multimedia software, not to >> think about the consequences. > Use in order to consume, in the first place. Every creational act > is left to "artists", but luckily, modern computers and the Internet > enable more people to be creative and share their works, so there > is hope for a better understanding (as long, of course, as those > creations don't drown in the sea of irrelevance). > > > >> I don't fear Trojans and similar, I fear unenlightened societies. > Try to ignore and forget them, or they'll scare you to death. ;-) > > > Desperately needed: Worldwide Mass Awakening to turn the table upside down. The current ultra wealthy ruling classes that control the world's money supply and the manipulation thereof, has to go. Sorry to say - it ain't happening any time soon. People like to sleep comfortably in the status quo. Frogs and crabs can be slowly boiled to death and will make no attempt to jump out of the cauldron.