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Date:      Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:53:20 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Don <don@calis.blacksun.org>
To:        Robert Watson <robert@cyrus.watson.org>
Cc:        freebsd-fs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Journaling
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9910281336120.37382-100000@calis.blacksun.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.991028123954.30145C-100000@fledge.watson.org>

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> yes.
Awesome.

> I think that having a journaled file system with extensible file
> attributes is a good idea--look at how easily XFS can be extended to
> support new features, yet to do this in a transactional way with
> meta-data.  There are numerous concerns with adding new features to an FS,
> and having a journaled extensible FS would throw a bunch of them out the
> window (updating fsck to handle the new features, dealing with the
> consistency and atomicity issues, etc).  
There are two reasons for starting this project. The first is to provide
FreeBSD with a very flexible, extensible file system that is truly
enterprise calibur. The second is to not have to worry about the
softupdates license.

> That said, writing a journaled fs is not easy :-).
This is completely understood. It took Veritas forever to add the ability
to shrink file system to Veritas File System. The goal is ot get the ball
rolling. If things start to work out then I can forsee about 10 people
working on this quite a bit (Not including anyone from this list who
wants to help out.)

I have started getting some systems together as well as the people who
would be working on this. I have also starting gathering the information
necessary to do this (including about 30 different texts which I will need
to read)

-don



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