From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 9 18:02:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA12152 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:02:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA12142 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:02:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA11941; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:01:34 -0700 (PDT) To: Terry Lambert cc: imp@village.org (Warner Losh), hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, fullermd@futuresouth.com Subject: Re: group assignments from make world. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Oct 1997 19:11:28 -0000." <199710091911.MAA06915@usr08.primenet.com> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 18:01:33 -0700 Message-ID: <11936.876445293@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Does this strike anyone else as a discipline issue rather than > a user read-access control issue? What's your point? You're not going to get 70+ volunteer hackers to do a synchronized swimming act no matter how much you berate them, nor will "reader locks" ever be anything but the most seriously braindead of work-stoppage proposals, so clearly this isn't something you can solve at the tech end. Yes, in an idealized world you could do all that and I'm sure that you will now cite personal experience at Novell where 10,000 developers all worked in close harmony despite not being paid a cent, purely through the administration of simple electric shocks, but I don't see any of that as particularly practical in our circumstances. Jordan