From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 13 07:26:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0011065673 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:26:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kip.macy@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8668FC39 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:26:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kip.macy@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so3808374waf.3 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:26:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Rj1SL3vY8LPLFwHtTYw3i/g+A6r65D6BB7tm99bTxAg=; b=f+KBwj5Ij1TOnInGVG73jcr+W51mYK1S9k+rEOGvZhOBuxT+e14I10GYxB5KRThW0uqm8ACqCzqXEM/ZfE+eXI5vKhqb6rwXldNDdLEZbJZtNUK+EYyXF0cGT1/0Fm8QzQgWezK+QkyMtq+2raGQnr4DVXo5+fZxP8DF3cIHzuU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VLD48Cr6Kw9dkDdLOhwcez3ewkKb5kAZD/JiuuubIThXJPMCxGLkU0LnkRGCqbDOvqD0aW4QvxssUlBEteOO34Xn0tIEd9/5hd7wV+PwzNmGguzttdZUmlCyjVMegQ+PBZhDpoImZSRndZJTIkxsGDOZiOZRB/u6leL4OhEQLgc= Received: by 10.114.173.15 with SMTP id v15mr8656429wae.63.1205393217397; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.22.10 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:26:57 -0700 From: "Kip Macy" To: "John Baldwin" In-Reply-To: <200803121123.12620.jhb@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200803121012.m2CAC24p033661@repoman.freebsd.org> <200803121123.12620.jhb@freebsd.org> Cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org, Jeff Roberson , src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/amd64/amd64 machdep.c trap.c vm_machdep.c src/sys/amd64/conf DEFAULTS src/sys/amd64/linux32 linux32_sysvec.c src/sys/arm/arm trap.c src/sys/arm/conf AVILA src/sys/arm/xscale/i8134x crb_machdep.c src/sys/compat/freebsd32 ... X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:26:58 -0000 It has in fact been discussed at great length. The only question was the timing. Most of us would agree that JeffR's time would be much better spent on lock pushdown than arguing about the specifics of KSE removal. -Kip On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 8:23 AM, John Baldwin wrote: > On Wednesday 12 March 2008 06:12:02 am Jeff Roberson wrote: > > jeff 2008-03-12 10:12:02 UTC > > > > FreeBSD src repository > > > > Modified files: > > ... > > > Log: > > Remove kernel support for M:N threading. > > > > While the KSE project was quite successful in bringing threading to > > FreeBSD, the M:N approach taken by the kse library was never developed > > to its full potential. Backwards compatibility will be provided via > > libmap.conf for dynamically linked binaries and static binaries will > > be broken. > > While I don't disagree with the change, it might have been nice to have > pre-announced the axeing first. Even with Alpha (which probably had more > support and which was discussed in person at BSDCan with a lot of developers) > having the removal not actually discussed on the lists at all resulted in > some bumps that could have been easily avoided with a bit more patience on my > part. > > -- > John Baldwin >