From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Dec 6 13:26:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28503EA08AE for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 13:26:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-cmomta03.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6EF072187; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 13:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from raspberrypi.bildanet.com ([65.186.81.207]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id MZk2e6hI8Tp7WMZk5eAeqL; Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:28:05 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.143] (helo=desktop.example.com) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1eMZik-0006Fc-4C; Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:26:42 +0000 Subject: Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless) To: Mathieu Arnold , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <7a9a2753-6460-a2bf-5156-5eab92a0b2f8@FreeBSD.org> <0a06d3dd-10a7-fd87-9348-f520f3dfc175@columbus.rr.com> <72f02c32-f5d1-6c3c-f248-4548f04a7b0d@FreeBSD.org> From: Baho Utot Message-ID: <81bb4bb8-eb4c-b4cd-654e-056867f10cc7@columbus.rr.com> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 08:26:41 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <72f02c32-f5d1-6c3c-f248-4548f04a7b0d@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfEdutfvPUiGlAhCmM6hfIEDsfUmtkMMNY2znJ3GGWHlKMR/zU2f0/GpPa0aL8M5nxypkKKR+Ew54QfG5P29P4BjvCy8z1rETAHFRQjtT1l4/yn1bRsYx 9olveP0MKE213FPTROuTho8khkAnGonkl2HLSNtUb7j4b+DfAR8tDWwroTVI4dKKdKZXMrfG5ZgrgxCJHwqB5pomSAXUnMY3Ziw= X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:26:53 -0000 On 12/06/17 04:53, Mathieu Arnold wrote: > Le 05/12/2017 à 23:25, Baho Utot a écrit : >> >> >> On 12/05/17 17:09, Mathieu Arnold wrote: >>> Le 05/12/2017 à 10:53, Aryeh Friedman a écrit : >>>> TL;DR; >>>> Flavors 'ed up ports and there are no good ways/alternates >>>> for how >>>> to use the ports collection for normal everyday users/maintainers >>> >>> >>> Thank you for supporting all the hard work and countless hours that so >>> many volunteers put in making the ports tree better. >>> >>> It really helps motivate all of us continue bringing the ports tree >>> forward when we get emails with so much joy and positive attitude. >>> >>> >> >> Thank you for taking a perfectly good system and breaking it as well >> as making it unusable, unstable.  You just don't know of all the >> countless hours spent after running an update and taking a week to get >> it working again. >> >> It really helps motivate all of us users to continue to have to fix >> broken systems due to broken ports system and then be told how great >> things are, brings us so much joy and keeps our attitude positive. > > For the users using binary packages, poudriere, or the ports tree > directly nothing changed. > > For users of third party abandonware, well, they were warned that it was > bound to happen at one point, and guess what, it happened. I don't > really understand why you continue spending all this time complaining > whereas switching to, say, poudriere, would have taken you about 5 minutes. > > Because I am a cranky old fart. Anyway of all the things that you posted nothing applies