From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 1:50:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A89237B723 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:50:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1D68466ED9; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:50:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:50:37 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: kris@obsecurity.org, ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de, antony@abacus.co.uk, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf Message-ID: <20010307015036.A36721@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010307011446.A8574@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010307012454.A14664@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010307014323M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010307014323M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:43:23AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:43:23AM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > I think the point is that you can be no more certain that > Mr. Hartman's problems were *not* caused by setting the -march flag to > i686 than I can be absolutely certain that they were. Given no better > than 50/50 certainty, however, the warning appeared prudent given that > we're unlikely to know with anything substantially better than 50/50 > on release day and the penalty for being "wrong" is fairly high, > whereas the penalty for being "right" is no worse than a gratuitous > warning which scares a few people away from an option which wouldn't > have saved them anything truly substantial in any case. I can be confident it is not a dangerous option, having never seen code failure caused by it desipite extensive use for a long time. This is not the case with optimizations generally accepted to be dangerous (like -O2) from which I have seen many failures from on my own systems. Given the number of people who use -march with no ill effects the 50/50 estimate is not very accurate. Kris --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pgRsWry0BWjoQKURAuSsAKCKlr+Zum6afhmK9OHU86cYsTTszwCeJBur TlMNKUVvFwM9ClM5ooBAq8U= =mne4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message