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From: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>
To: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
Subject: Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-) 
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2012, Julian H. Stacey wrote:

> Ian Lepore wrote:
>>
>> Before you do that, read this:
>>
>>  http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html
>
> The page is bad here:
> 	"Summary ... just let xorg-server use hald by default."
>
> FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE & 9.0-RELEASE by default do Not run hald.  See:
> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald
> 	# Add the following line to /etc/rc.conf to enable the HAL daemon:
> 	#
> 	# hald_enable="YES"
> There is no hald_enable="YES" in /etc/defaults/rc.conf (Happily, IMO).

It's not saying that hald is run by default, merely that xorg-server 
will try to use it by default.