From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 30 01:15:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF974FE for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 01:15:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:8060:ff02:300:1:6:4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F522B7 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 01:15:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp247-71.static.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([203.122.247.71]) by ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 30 Mar 2013 11:45:00 +1030 Message-ID: <51563C91.9090006@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:44:57 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger Subject: Re: external hdd References: <6B60EA1E-0277-499A-917A-AA2B3030F0FD@mac.com> <150B553F-AED1-45D7-86C9-EB482ED267EC@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <150B553F-AED1-45D7-86C9-EB482ED267EC@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Damien Fleuriot , Laszlo Danielisz , FreeBSD - X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 01:15:01 -0000 On 30/03/2013 09:43, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Hi-- > > On Mar 29, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> On 29 March 2013 18:06, Chuck Swiger wrote: >>> Time Machine is only supported on top of journaled HFS+; I'm not >>> sure how fusefs-hfs is doing on FreeBSD, though. Or you could >>> setup multiple partitions and have an exFAT partition for data >>> interchange between other OSes. >> >> Now, unless I got things wrong, I believe you're mistaken. > > The key word above which folks might not be paying enough attention > towards-- particularly in the context of a backup solution-- is > "supported". > >> I, for instance, have a Time Machine server running on top of >> 10.0-CURRENT with ZFS. >> http://www.area536.com/projects/ironclad-time-machine-backups-on-freebsd/ > >> > Indeed. As one might note on that page: > > defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1 > ^^^^^^^^^^^ The real point to notice is that the mentioned zfs storage is accessed over the network not over a local usb/sata cable. The freebsd server reads/writes to zfs the remote mac only talks afp over tcp seeing it as another network fileserver. While 10.5 included a zfs read-only kext apple removed it in 10.6 or 10.7. There is an oss version of zfs started that appears to have been revived - maczfs.com. There is also a commercial package for osx zfs - zevo. I'm not vouching for either of these just mentioning that they exist.