From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 9 12:42:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18936 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:42:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamefish.pcola.gulf.net (gamefish.pcola.gulf.net [198.69.72.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18931 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:42:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from psalzman@gamefish.pcola.gulf.net) Received: from localhost (psalzman@localhost) by gamefish.pcola.gulf.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA09889; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:41:44 GMT (envelope-from psalzman@gamefish.pcola.gulf.net) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:41:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Phillip Salzman To: pat.groce@state.sd.us cc: jlemon@americantv.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help In-Reply-To: <5D2C95997022D21187350008C7F4CF793E6C00@ESPR1SRV5.state.sd.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No, its your fault for being a moron. www.freebsd.org stated -RELEASE is NOT -STABLE... now go play with yourself or something, have fun with NT - - its perfect for people like you. -- Phillip Salzman On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 pat.groce@state.sd.us wrote: > I couldn't get anything but 3.0 over the net. I mean i download boot.flp and > fdimage.exe, made my install disk, and 3.0 was what i got. DON'T BLAME ME, I > DID EVERYTHING THE WWW.FREEBD.ORG TOLD ME TO FOR AN INSTALL. Why didn't the > web site or setup program warn me not to install 3.0? > > The web page at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html made it all > sound so simple. I didn't know there were hidden issues! > > If the system isn't configured correctly its FREEBSD'S fault! Why can't a > fresh install even stand on two legs? So what if its out of disk space? Not > my fault. It should have configured the partitions correctly from the first > place. What a joke! And you're blaming ME for the system having problems? > > ADMIT IT! FREEBSD CAN NEVER HOLD A CANDLE TO NT. ONLY A MOUNTAIN TROLL WHO > SPENDS HIS DAYS SLOBBERING OVER A KEYBOARD HACKING SYSTEM CODE COULD EVER > GET IT WORKING. > > This os is not for the business world! > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Lemon [mailto:jlemon@americantv.com] > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 10:27 AM > To: pat.groce@state.sd.us > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help > > > On Nov 11, 1998 at 10:01:11AM -0600, pat.groce@state.sd.us wrote: > > We had been running freebsd for 4 years to handle our internet email. Last > > week the hard drive crashed on the system. I had a tape backup of > important > > files so i reinstalled using the new freebsd 3.0 version. > > Let me get this straight; You had a system crash, so instead of > re-installing a known good system, you upgrade a production system > to the bleeding edge (3.0) without any prior testing? > > Honestly, this was a mistake, and the version that should have > been installed was installed was 2.2.7. > > > > cryptic errors. Sendmail keeps giving me an error: > > sendmail[131]: NOQUEUE: low on space (have 0, SMTP-DAEMON needs 101 in > > /var/spool/mqueue) > > So, sendmail gives you an error message saying that it is out of > disk space, and you blame it on sendmail? No offense, but it > sounds to me like the system isn't configured correctly. > > > > To hell with FreeBSD. We are replacing all of the systems with NT versions > > of sendmail. And it works great! I neat little GUI makes sendmail and the > > Exchange listservs easy to manage.The software may cost more, but in terms > > of staff time, we're saving thousands, not to mention all the frustration. > > > > I read all the news on how unix is going to give microsoft a run for the > > operating system market. I don't believe it for a second. > > You are welcome to your opinion. If NT works better for you, > then by all means, use it. > > FreeBSD is powerful, and can do anything that you want it to do. > However, it setting it up and maintaining it does require more > knowledge on the administrator's part than NT. In return, it > can provide "years of trouble-free operation"(tm). > > You did note that FreeBSD handled your email for 4 years before a > harddrive crash. Please feel free to give us a summary in 4 years > from now of how well NT behaves in doing the same task. > -- > Jonathan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message