From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 2 5:29:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E6637B401; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 05:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3755A43E3B; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 05:29:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@starjuice.net) Received: from sheldonh by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local (Exim 4.10) id 17wicd-000EUs-00; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 14:28:59 +0200 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 14:28:58 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Marc Recht Cc: Alexander Langer , phk@critter.freebsd.dk, current@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: expat2 in the base system? Message-ID: <20021002122858.GJ44476@starjuice.net> Mail-Followup-To: Marc Recht , Alexander Langer , phk@critter.freebsd.dk, current@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20021002103007.588d3bf3.marc@informatik.uni-bremen.de> <84545.1033548356@critter.freebsd.dk> <20021002115138.GE90861@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> <20021002135749.4ba3abc3.marc@informatik.uni-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021002135749.4ba3abc3.marc@informatik.uni-bremen.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On (2002/10/02 13:57), Marc Recht wrote: > IMO 1. would be better with a complete expat. So the ports could use > the system version and probably/maybe the drift between the official- > and system-version will not be that big. And compared to Perl expat it > rather small. So the bloat couldn't be that big.. What? Have you had much experience with the expat ports? I'm guessing that you're arguing a theoretical point. For a while, we had two versions in the ports tree, and some applications had conflicting version requirements that caused them to blow up horribly (e.g. mod_perl, PageKit). We're at a lucky moment in time, where there's only one version of expat in the ports tree. But think about what happens when there are two mainstream versions at large again. Please let's learn from past mistakes and give this library a completely separate name, perhaps with stripped down functionality. Then ports can still choose to use it instead of the expat2 port if it does the job for them, and we have our cake and eat it. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message