From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 14:30:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E983E16A4BF for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thud.tbe.net (thud.tbe.net [209.123.109.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2630543FE5 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:30:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gary@tbe.net) Received: by thud.tbe.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 768141C946D; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thud.tbe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729A3DCE62; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:07:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gary D. Margiotta" To: Tim Middleton In-Reply-To: <200309101652.34637.x@Vex.Net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is 5.x still too unstable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:30:01 -0000 All my production servers are running some variant of 4.x, mostly 4-STABLE, although I have some 4.x-RELEASE boxes still running original installs. I won't upgrade my production machines, which house customer web services until at the very least 5-CURRENT branches off into 5-STABLE and 6-CURRENT. I'm hoping to test outa build for a new production box after 5.2-RELEASE, but probably won't be doing any serious upgrades until 5.3 at the earliest. We're running a couple 5-CURRENT boxes for personal machines, workstations, etc, but 4.x is rock solid, and still has more than enough horsepower for our applications. If you want to make an impression, use 4-STABLE, show them how rock solid the boxes are, and then tell them that they're only going to get better when 5.x comes production ready. -Gary Running Windows is kinda like playing blackjack: User stays on success, reboots on failure On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Tim Middleton wrote: > > I am hoping to move some of the servers in our ISP to FreeBSD. I have been > rather hoping 5.2 would be reliable enough, so that we can move to it and > enjoy all the -CURRENT goodness. > > The test server locked up yesterday, during some heavy port building, after > running for weeks with no problem. (-; I've not gone to investigate the > cause yet. But it has me nervous. It's been difficult to get FreeBSD accepted > at all here, so I'm wanting it to make a good impression. > > I have run 5 at home since 5.0-Release (currently 20030821 snapshot); and > while there have been problems now and again with a few builds, once these > have been solved my system here has been really very stable, which gave me > hope it would be also OK for work... > > So what is the general opinion of those here? Should i play it safe and go > back to 4.x until 5.x becomes officially "stable". Or do people think that > for most general purpose stuff 5.x should be generally stable "enough"? > "Enough" is a bit of a difficult word to define... of course one wants rock > solid for a server... but one may be able to tolerate some sorts of problems > as long as they can be sorted out quickly, and things are moving towards > ultimate stability in the near future. These aren't huge servers (no > multi-processor)... but moderately busy. Running the usual sorts of things... > apache, postfix, python, zope, nfs, etc. > > I realise my post may be a little premature when I haven't even checked out > what seems to have taken the test box down yet; but it's been on my mind to > solicit opinions here before this happened, so... any thoughts or experiences > running 5x on ISP servers to share out there? Are some snapshots known to be > better than others? Any tips/tweaks on making 5.x just a little more > stable---even at the cost of performance---than a default install (like > disabling acpi, as the first thing). > > -- > Tim Middleton | Cain Gang Ltd | A man is rich in proportion to the number of > x@veX.net | www.Vex.Net | things which he can afford to let alone. HDT > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >