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Sabatier's message of "Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:41:55 -0600") Message-ID: <873ahb58m9.fsf@chateau.d.lf> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJ1BMVEWpqal/f39tbW1jY2Md HR2goKCenp6UlJROTk7////9/f35+fnT09ORJdieAAACVklEQVQ4jXXUP2vbQBQA8AvUTkgz5OzY Z0iGWhpS6BSrkECn0mvx0MEJ6AjtYrfoBCVDlD8naJYmNlRfwZq8+mkKlIZaGpJSYmP7Q/XkJDrJ Td8i/H68u3vHPaPufwLdf32AMA4A6GcAgvAamY1pOJiDIFqicTwLswDhfr3uxfFtkAY/GFHPMwzD 8zpnACmIOnE6js7rQb+v4NJrG9od0C+QgpHMy5jBewV+UDSMWiw1Y4fWfyV7+NGFzDsYa3pth9LJ Q4XvXxFHcJRvHOmygn5NAEabnDcQQguarnfoiwSCJ99jmKKcphsZONmWsDK9Ro7cvZOCtQdg8nje egLhc2LNlkLmsezzTFUUy5w18ocox/f0LaLgJy0zO75zk+9pp85GAj36xjqhdI0y3tq2m4dqqcWX zQWBTz8L1irvolXV4J+3q7eCDgVnttjNq6X8H+9KOZsuNk1uCzx8pSp+E9HImfJOTLdcGqo+YKnG EIovizkEn48V7BO+ch2DXcD4ENSpWiU+q8hjjbgTBZCXnZtyj0Ws4Q1Q0B2WXFtYZo65Bbyeeldw RS6qFueM80LlLA29YlVwGRYvFD+kwI/0O+A2PlpOP9GwslUVciHuYGechuBTp922YiDZCrghTknm XSyOM+D3aoRZlo0Jb42zY7DN4p2x4AeZ+QAYutx1sHwTHzMT5cMNduQ9yW3GczN4KZ86kb0c9O8T yXDeFqpl2fryPEAYGXIlezAPXYh2NgVr/gvdoHIuDwuPwOhcWE8f8mmICq41eATkn8x0kuRTIKcB wE9+/QUtiiAnYcaN7wAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Sender: =?UTF-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3IOCktuClgeCkleCljeCksiBBc2hpc2ggU2h1a2xh?= Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i give up X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 07:12:05 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Conrad J Sabatier writes: [...] > Hell, the fact that even at this late date we still don't have an > amd64 nVidia video driver speaks volumes, in my opinion.=20=20 I don't think FreeBSD team can do anything about it, other than trying to hack drivers like noveau[1] project is doing, since specifications of the nVidia cards aren't made public, so you've to depend on nVidia to write a driver for your OS. > Otherwise, all I can see is that FreeBSD will eventually go the way of > the dinosaurs and be someday relegated to little more than a quaint > and curious bit of ancient and forgotten folklore on display in the > museum of bygone primitive computing platforms, right there alongside > the TRS-80s and Sinclairs and Commodores and Amigas and what-not. > What a pity. > It really does pain me greatly to have to abandon my beloved FreeBSD in > favor of the the plethora of Linux "distros" out there, but my patience > has worn quite thin, and I'm still not seeing any particular effort > being put forth in the the FreeBSD camp to rectify the situation I'm > finding myself in. I've really come to love FreeBSD over the years, > and have been a very outspoken advocate on its behalf amongst my > friends and colleagues, but what I can I say?=20=20 > That it's a great system, provided you have the right hardware? This > is just not acceptable in this day and age, I'm sorry. This was the situation of GNU/Linux too in its early days, but as its userbase has grown, the hardware support for it has grown as well. The userbase of FreeBSD is not as big as compared to GNU/Linux and also FreeBSD has less contributors than GNU/Linux, so this is why hardware support is not as good as GNU/Linux. I think we can help by participating as developers, testers, porters etc. Hope to see you back... References: [1] - http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ =2D-=20 Ashish Shukla --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkw5iIACgkQHy+EEHYuXnQGMwCeKWlBcIIbY/+ntkYghqxyHrzI 2EYAn2R2roo8HM/RcuRefqUJwolR+h07 =dfxu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--