From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Dec 21 3:29:47 2000 From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 21 03:29:44 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.149.48.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC00A37B400 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 03:29:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27579 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2000 11:29:41 -0000 Received: from jhs.muc.de (193.149.49.84) by slarti.muc.de with SMTP; 21 Dec 2000 11:29:41 -0000 Received: from park.jhs.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhs.muc.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eBLBY9H07488; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:34:13 GMT (envelope-from root@park.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200012211134.eBLBY9H07488@jhs.muc.de> To: Dennis Cc: Boris , Murray Stokely , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT In-Reply-To: Message from Dennis of "Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:45:21 EST." <5.0.0.25.0.20001220192150.01f42450@mail.etinc.com> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 12:34:09 +0100 From: "Root%flip@jhs.muc.de" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dennis wrote: > At 07:58 PM 12/19/2000, Julian Stacey Jhs@jhs.muc.de wrote: > >Dennis wrote to Boris et all: > > > > > > >Device Drivers > > > >-------------- > > > >I donīt like binary only device drivers. The code of an operating > > > >system is more complex than a driver. if a company does not want to > > > >publish the sourcecode, the should go away. > > > > > > You've lost all credibility here. Well supported device drivers should no > t > > > require source. I'd prefer a commercial (preferably the manufacters) > > > support other than some guy in the ural mountains who fixes things IF he > > > can get a card with a problem and IF he can duplicate the problem and IF > > > hes a good enough coder to get it done. > > > > > "hacker mentality" is not mainstream. 98% of people dont have a clue what > > > >`Mainstream' is a target some seek to avoid. Micro$oft exemplifies > >mainstream. > > Your "mentality" has caused you to alienate yourselves from the rest of the > world, which serves your ego but not the FreeBSD community. Acts such as:: > > 1) refusing to fix the kernel Make to work properly with binary modules Dennis, Your headers are wrong, You wrote: To: "Julian Stacey Jhs@jhs.muc.de" Cc: Boris , Murray Stokely , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001220192150.01f42450@mail.etinc.com> I Julian, the addressee, Did Not refuse ... etc, or all the rest, So please fix your headers, or use "You `Persons name`". Re. a post of yours about a day before, to someone else, not me: When criticising a person's ideas or actions, adding personal perjoratives (IE calling names) can detract as well from critic, as from target. Julian - Julian Stacey Unix Consultant - Munich Germany http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ Considering Linux ? Try FreeBSD with its 4200 packages ! Ihr Rauchen => mein allergischer Kopfschmerz ! Kau/Schnupftabak probieren ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message