From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 2 19:59:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9063316A41F for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 19:59:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from h.nieser@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B492E43D5C for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 19:59:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from h.nieser@xs4all.nl) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (nieser.net [194.109.160.131]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jB2JxeUO013434 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 2 Dec 2005 20:59:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from h.nieser@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: <4390A7AC.5000806@xs4all.nl> Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:59:40 +0100 From: Hans Nieser User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051201) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Nowiasz , freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org References: <1133550903.757.24.camel@tower> In-Reply-To: <1133550903.757.24.camel@tower> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Subject: Re: Solution X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:59:42 -0000 Mark Nowiasz wrote: > Hans Nieser wrote: > >>I suppose this means that if you want a non-default keyboard layout you >>have to set it through the XkbModel/XkbLayout options in xorg.conf from >>now on. I wonder why the Keyboard Preferences dialog wasn't updated >>accordingly though... I might be entirely wrong about this > > > Actually, this is quite hard to believe - this would make the keyboard > preferences (and the panel) totally useless. In this case, Gnome should > disable the settings. > > It's also hard to believe because there are very valid reasons to allow > the user to use a different layout (instead of the system's layout): > > * consider a true multi-user system, where users want to use > "their" native keyboard layout (for example, at a international > university) > * sometimes, it's quite useful to switch layouts on the fly - the > US keyboard layout has certain aadvantages to the German one > when you want to program something ({}[] are more easily > accessible). > > Disabling this feature would be madness, IMHO. I fully agree, which is why I am seriously doubting wether my conclusion is correct, but then the comments for the "/desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd/overrideSettings" key are pretty clear about it too. I guess they real question is, what is meant by "system configuration"?, is it user-specific? (although I suppose the name can be percieved to imply that it is not), and where is it changed?