From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 27 01:21:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003DB16A4CE for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 01:21:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from niobe.ijs.si (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D77543D55 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 01:21:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by niobe.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498631DD565; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 02:21:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from niobe.ijs.si ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (niobe.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00721-01; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 02:21:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from metatron.ijs.si (metatron.ijs.si [193.2.4.152]) by niobe.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623CA1DD594; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 02:21:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from idefix.ijs.si (idefix.ijs.si [193.2.4.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by metatron.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EDF1C00717; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 02:21:17 +0100 (CET) From: Dejan Lesjak To: Gary Kline Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 02:21:16 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200502270221.16635.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ijs.si cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg 6.8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 01:21:46 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 10:41:33PM +0100, Michael Nottebrock wrote: >> On Saturday, 26. February 2005 22:19, Gary Kline wrote: >> > On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 09:49:00PM +0100, Michael Nottebrock wrote: >> > > On Saturday, 26. February 2005 13:05, Godwin Stewart wrote: >> > > > On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 22:25:24 +1030, "Daniel O'Connor" >> > > > >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > You don't need to update a port just because it depends on Xorg. >> > > > > The X API is quite stable so you can update just Xorg without >> > > > > expecting any problems. (I did XFree86 -> Xorg with zero problems >> > > > > for example) >> > > > >> > > > No, the problem's the other way round. Every time I want to >> > > > portupgrade something else, portupgrade also wants to upgrade Xorg. >> > > >> > > edit /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf, find the HOLD_PKGS = [ line and >> > > change it to >> > > >> > > HOLD_PKGS = [ >> > > 'bsdpan-*', >> > > 'xorg-*', >> > > 'imake-*', >> > > ] >> > > >> > > I've been using that for a long time now, since Xorg 6.8.1 breaks >> > > vt-switching for me. >> > >> > Tweaking pkgtools.conf may help me if I move back to XFree, >> > and it's looking like I have no choice. xorg autoconfigs >> > itself to run at too high a res and nothing I do fixes it. >> >> How about adjusting the configuration then? > > > There is utterly no xorg.conf file; the xorg probes > set the resolution to the max (1600x1200), and the > display `quivers' --for lack of a better word. So far > my attemps with xorgcfg and xorgconfig work with > startx only. And the display is off-center (leftward). Following the procedure at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html should get you a default configuration. If you already have XF86Config file, the X.Org will use that. Also in that section of Handbook is an example of Section "Screen" in which you can list the Modes that you would like and see xorg.conf(5) manpage for more info (or XF86Config(5) if you go with XFree86 of course). >> >> > So, without highjacking this thread _too_ much, can anybody >> > give me the cmds to get back to XFree-4 on my 5.3 install? >> >> You really don't want to do that except you're absolutely desparate (and >> the above problem doesn't fit that category). Using XFree86 on 5.3 will >> make your system incompatible with binary packages for 5.3 and for >> 5-STABLE. As long as one builds from ports and doesn't use packages that depend on X11, things should work. If there are problems, I would like to know about them. >> > > If it's just binary _packages_, no problem since I build > everything from src. Is XFree86 going to be completely > obsolesced? No. As long as XFree86 will be released, I intend to keep ports up to date. (4.5.0 is planned for early-mid March 2005.) Dejan