From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jan 8 11:35:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA19195 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:35:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (d182-89.uoregon.edu [128.223.182.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA19102 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:34:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA07962; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:34:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19980108113407.02264@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:34:07 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Terry Lambert Cc: daniel_sobral@voga.com.br, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make_device_driver.sh References: <19980107154653.65316@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199801081849.LAA16908@usr08.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199801081849.LAA16908@usr08.primenet.com>; from Terry Lambert on Thu, Jan 08, 1998 at 06:49:05PM +0000 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert scribbled this message on Jan 8: > > soon, when I've completed the bus/device code, then this will be possible, > > but at the same time, the current LKM system will be replaced with the > > kld system, so there won't be any "special" handling of dynamicly loaded > > modules, just special handling of brain-dead not upgraded devices that > > don't support unloading.. > > Since this is going to be a big change anyway... > > > Is there any chance I can convince you to do seperate open/close calls > for each instance of an open or a close? > > PHK wanted this last year, but was shouted down because of the impact > it would have. If you are about to cause the same magnitude impact > in the same area... it seems like a logical time to bring this up again. I personally like that idea too, but the problem is that the changes that I'm making won't effect that part (cdev/bdev structs) of the system.. this only handles how devices are "attached", but the resources they provide (cdev/bdev/tty) are something different... -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking P.O. Box 5693, 97405 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD