From owner-freebsd-current Sat Feb 21 11:30:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05438 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:30:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sag.space.lockheed.com (sag.space.lockheed.com [192.68.162.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA05412 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:30:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from handy@sag.space.lockheed.com) Received: from localhost by sag.space.lockheed.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/21Nov95-0423PM) id AA11391; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:30:36 -0800 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:30:36 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Handy To: Richard Wackerbarth Cc: John Kelly , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More breakage in -current as a result of header frobbing. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Files: The truth is out there Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: >>I propose that after 2.2.6 or 2.2.7, whichever comes last, that you >>just do away with -stable altogether and start making three or four CD >>SNAPs of -current per year and call it "semi-stable." Just catch the >>-current tree at a really good time when making those CDs. > >This would definitely be the WRONG way to go. We need to be making >EXTREMELY HIGH QUALITY releases. I'm with Richard here. While -current is the rage, and it's cool, and SMP, and 4.4lite, and Terry-enriched, it's not everything. I only rode the -current wave in the early 2.x days when I needed linux emulation to work for my stuff. Now -stable is allowing me (usually) to do my thesis work on. And the legacy of grad students I leave behind me at MSU are going to be using 3.0-STABLE to do the same thing, while hackers (in their right) continue to bitch and moan about how hard it is to find a day when 3.5-BLEEDING will compile all the way through. I can still compile every port I need on -STABLE, even though it's done on brown and orange 1970's shag carpet. It works, it's fast, and there's nothing in -OUCH that I particularly need right now. 3.0-STABLE is certainly coming, though I won't hazard a guess when. But a lot of us work just fine in a -STABLE environment, in our plaid pants and polyester vests. (Oh wait...that stuff is coming back into style. :-) Though I do conceed that it would be easier to jump on the current bandwagon if it would compile all the way through just once. :-) I like a stable -STABLE and a virulent -CURRENT, Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message