From owner-freebsd-security Tue Jun 5 10:50: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from magnetar.blackhatnetworks.com (magnetar.blackhatnetworks.com [65.166.202.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E62337B403 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@bsdfreak.org) Received: from localhost (alex@localhost.blackhatnetworks.com [127.0.0.1]) by magnetar.blackhatnetworks.com (8.x/8.x) with ESMTP id f55Hnwt20598; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:49:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex X-X-Sender: To: Alex Holst Cc: Subject: Re: Apache Software Foundation Server compromised, resecured. (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20010605194514.B98233@area51.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Quoting Crist Clark (crist.clark@globalstar.com): > > You cannot 'record passphrases.' RSA authentication uses public key > > cryptography. > > Exactly. However, consider the three machines in the scenario below: > > workstation ---> compromised middle machine ---> server > > I have been thinking about the least risk approach. If the middle machine > has ssh and sshd trojaned to various degrees, would one not benefit from > using authentication forwarding rather than typing one's passphrase to the > ssh client on the compromised machine? This is a perfect scenario for the attack to perform a man-in-the-middle attack, passive SSH analysis, or a brute force attempt at the cryptographic integrity of the connection. -Alex > > If one does lose his passphrase and the trojaned ssh captured the response > it still wouldn't do an intruder much good, would it? > > -- > I prefer the dark of the night, after midnight and before four-thirty, > when it's more bare, more hollow. http://a.area51.dk/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message