From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 31 18:12:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A62DF5B; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:12:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x22b.google.com (mail-wg0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E1A3328D; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id k14so4562884wgh.16; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 10:12:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KkiuLST07T+OexEmzSAZcHQz9EGhWSeiCpi1KMTumXw=; b=xaQ6826nsQJtovM5RSRH4p/w5XFVUMo5d1i995UfJTLXK1OapR8c16VCKeyjZW94f7 epmxKmY4CbZpC9mq/hm2LfN8cCUT7/XdclOC0aM+JDbCG+oVN6Hy2DyqcCpRdDsJiXCE ZcVjqvZ0Yfw1k2nGdXIortRLMC92Rcootg6RM5bSTfsYBOU4jA3XE7cGYccG17tAGXfs MVPUgkk4G/R3LFgAolNzIZL7ww/GFburDkgzSRkJLrtXWiquwCgMyVWMJ9itg/Ws7Z70 MBnreouuZ1wVZLlJ4qCyllG8ACEPj5OtgCsurTN2GbUeXtOAjbj/3FE7fdHRNnLYyX5c d7AA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.5.37 with SMTP id p5mr10540951wjp.20.1420049535823; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 10:12:15 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.106.195 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 10:12:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20141231175658.GD75959@hub.FreeBSD.org> References: <13C55A7B-4010-40FA-901B-DF8ED6BADD87@freebsd.org> <20141231042455.GB53230@hub.FreeBSD.org> <24520431-8E2A-4D70-BD2D-D8D76A98C762@freebsd.org> <20141231151723.GA75959@hub.FreeBSD.org> <20141231175658.GD75959@hub.FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 10:12:15 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: G_e5bzH_N0vJ6AdaibKHnC_JLek Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to make a FreeBSD vm in virtualbox. From: Adrian Chadd To: Glen Barber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Ryan Kois , FreeBSD Release Engineering Team , Alfred Perlstein , Claudia Yadathi , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , Will Andrews X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:12:45 -0000 I'm confused by this discussion. The basic image generation doesn't need to use any third-party tools. We can always have a transformation step /after/ those images are generated that uses third party tools to generate other images. Much like Alfred's shell script. I know it sucks, but unless someone wants to write BSD versions of all of those configuration pieces, we're going to be stuck using external tools to do things. And those things will get eyeballs. -adrian