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Date:      Tue, 13 Dec 2016 14:09:54 +0000
From:      Doug Rabson <dfr@rabson.org>
To:        Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca>
Cc:        Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>, Colin Percival <cperciva@tarsnap.com>,  "freebsd-fs@freebsd.org" <freebsd-fs@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: ESTALE after cwd deleted by same NFS client
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OPEN4_RESULT_PRESERVE_UNLINKED is described in the NFSv4.1 RFC

On 13 December 2016 at 13:04, Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca> wrote:

> Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
>
> >On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 06:15:14AM +0000, Colin Percival wrote:
> >> On 12/11/16 21:42, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> >> > On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 11:06:42PM +0000, Colin Percival wrote:
> >> >> If I run the following with /nfs/ being an NFS mount:
> >> >> # mkdir /nfs/foo
> >> >> # touch /nfs/foo/bar
> >> >> # cd /nfs/foo
> >> >> # rm -r /nfs/foo
> >> >> # rm bar
> If this is happening on a single client, something is broken.
> - For this step, the name cache should have a miss and the Lookup should
> fail with
>   ENOENT. I think the most likely failures are...
>   --> Either the name cache in the client is broken and has a hit
>   OR
>   --> The server replies NFS_OK for the lookup, even though it should have
> been removed.
>
> When I get home on the weekend, I'll try this against a FreeBSD and Linux
> server, to see
> if it fails. If it does, then I'll try to figure out why.
> (Version of NFS shouldn't matter for this case. They recently added the
> optional case
>  of a server that can retain files after an NFSv4 Remove until the NFSv4
> Close, making
>  it more POSIX like. I think that's NFSv4.2, but it might be in NFSV4.1.)
>
> Did you try:
> sysctl debug.disable_vnfullpath=1 (or something close to
> disable_vnfullpath)
> to see if it helped?
>
> rick
>
> >> >>
> >> >> Then the final 'rm bar' fails with 'Stale NFS file handle'.
> >> >
> >> > Amusingly, this just came up recently:
> >> >
> >> > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/nfsv4/current/msg15115.html
> (et seq)
> >> >
> >> > But I guess you did not specify which version of the NFS protocol you
> were
> >> > using...
> >>
> >> I'm using NFSv4.1, but this isn't quite the same... that link refers to
> having
> >> one NFS client remove a file out from underneath a different client,
> while I'm
> >> talking about having an NFS client remove a file from underneath
> *itself*.
> >
> >I thought the reply mentioned (in passing) the case of a client removing a
> >file out from under itself as well.  But, maybe I was reading too fast.
> >
> >-Ben
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