From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 23 22:39:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58AF41065674; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:39:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Hartmut.Brandt@dlr.de) Received: from smtp-3.dlr.de (smtp-3.dlr.de [195.37.61.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05F58FC08; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Hartmut.Brandt@dlr.de) Received: from [129.247.12.20] ([129.247.12.20]) by smtp-3.dlr.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:39:30 +0100 Message-ID: <4951688D.5080202@dlr.de> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:39:09 +0100 From: Hartmut Brandt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kip Macy References: <55f001c9639d$875f14ec$7202020a@internal.cacheflow.com> <4950F770.3090700@dlr.de> <3c1674c90812231408h53b16b4as5d3fa242e6d02a10@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3c1674c90812231408h53b16b4as5d3fa242e6d02a10@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Dec 2008 22:39:30.0398 (UTC) FILETIME=[51AE77E0:01C9654F] Cc: Qing Li , "Li, Qing" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADSUP: arp-v2 has been committed X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:39:32 -0000 Hi Kip, Kip Macy wrote: >>> And another point: when changing external interfaces it might be >>> possible to ask for a full port build with the changes to look for the >>> fall-out on ports. I would say that this commit was a good candidate >>> >> to >> >>> get the port maintainers into the boat earlier. >>> >>> not so happy, >>> > > The only reasonable way to do a full ports build is to ask portmgr to > use the build systems. Although it may now be possible with svn, in > the past there was no way for him to do that for out of tree code. > Hence portmgr does not share your point of view. > Well, they did this in the past, for example when I did some heavy work on make(1). At that time Kris did this, I don't know through which magic, though. > What we should have done is grepped for RTM_RESOLVE and the flags that > I removed. However, that did not occur to me. He asked on numerous > occasions for review and someone should have brought it up then. We do > not feel that it is reasonable to hold him solely responsible when he > did not act in a unilateral fashion. > > I usually take care of stuff that touches anything that has to do with the SNMP stuff, but this time the triggering did not work. I probably was sure that people will directly mail before touching someting in src/contrib. > Thank you for taking care of that bit of breakage. > No problem. That was a good kick to finally look how this vendor import stuff works and get the next import prepared. Don't take it too serious, 't was just a bad day (it started with a broken cup :-) harti