From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 26 15:09:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA08678 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:09:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.anasazi.com (mailhost.anasazi.com [138.113.128.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA08669 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:09:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from chad.anasazi.com by mailhost.anasazi.com (5.65/3.7) id AA19592; Wed, 26 Mar 97 16:08:27 -0700 Received: by chad.anasazi.com (5.65/3.7) id AA08251; Wed, 26 Mar 97 16:08:24 -0700 From: chad@anasazi.com (Chad R. Larson) Message-Id: <9703262308.AA08251@chad.anasazi.com> Subject: Re: SUP To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:08:22 -0700 (MST) Cc: imp@village.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <15369.859407136@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Mar 26, 97 12:12:16 pm Reply-To: chad@anasazi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The fact is that no matter what we did, including parking the Goodyear > Blimp over your house with a flashing "Upgrade to CVSup! Upgrade, > Warner, Upgrade!" banner on its belly, you probably wouldn't upgrade > until forced to at gunpoint. You have other demands on your schedule > and upgrades are a hassle, we know that, but please don't misidentify > a human nature issue as a byproduct of "volunteer organization", OK? :-) It =is= a human nature thing. I've been using SUP all along. I understood that much of the world was using CVSup, but SUP was working for me and I didn't want to invest time/effort learning another method. I feared I could wind up killing quite a lot of time, learning the ins and outs of CVS, etc. Why change unless I had to. This week, I had to. It turned out not to be too painful. A lot of necessary information is =only= in the on-line handbook at www.FreeBSD.org; it's nowhere to be found on my 2.1.7 machines. But an evening with Section 17.2 of that handbook, and the man page got me running. I took the easy way out and picked up the static binaries to avoid having to build and deal with Modula-3. I agree that a little more explicit notice would have been appreciated. "It's going away someday" doesn't carry the same imperative as "we're shutting it down next week." -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL22) Brother, can you paradigm? 602-870-3330 chad@anasazi.com chad@anasaz.UUCP chad@dcfinc.com Anasazi, Inc. - 7500 North Dreamy Draw Drive, Suite 120, Phoenix, Az 85020