From owner-cvs-ports Sun May 3 23:07:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27935 for cvs-ports-outgoing; Sun, 3 May 1998 23:07:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-cvs-ports) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27915; Sun, 3 May 1998 23:06:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13404; Mon, 4 May 1998 08:06:30 +0200 (CEST) To: Eivind Eklund cc: Matthew Hunt , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/www/ijb - Imported sources In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 04 May 1998 00:33:56 +0200." <19980504003356.43232@follo.net> Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 08:06:30 +0200 Message-ID: <13402.894261990@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> First: >> ------ >> If I used Lynx I wouldn't see the ads. From this we can deduce that >> people pay for having their ads placed, but not for having them read. > >This is quite incorrect. There are three advertising models in broad >use on the web today - pay per impression (usually counted in >thosands as 'CPM'), pay per click-through, and pay per action. But you must admit that all this is purely unintersting if I run Lynx, right ? >> (This is exactly the same as the ads in any magazine, the magzine >> publishes the ads, but they do not guarantee that I will not simply >> skip those pages when I read the magazine.) > >They give a statistical average for how many 'impressions' the ad will >generate - how many people that will see it. In some cases, they're >in on a pay-per-action deal, but that is more common on television >(e.g, the CNN hotels adverts and almost certainly the MTV collections >CD adverts). This is not television, but a user-controlled medium. >> Third: >> ------ >> FreeBSD is in the business of providing tools for people, we're not >> in the business of setting their policies. > >I disagree. We're clearly in the business of setting policies - ie, >which tools we include in the base system is part of setting policy >for the sites that install it, and not having rootkits in the ports >collection is setting policy. Well Eivind, you're not setting policy, -core is, and last time we discussed this, -core agreed on the above. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal