From nobody Thu Dec 2 04:14:36 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-pf@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F49418BD049 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 2021 04:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4J4Mzr0nPvz3qKH; Thu, 2 Dec 2021 04:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-qk1-f180.google.com (mail-qk1-f180.google.com [209.85.222.180]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: kevans) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E910A28AA9; Thu, 2 Dec 2021 04:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: by mail-qk1-f180.google.com with SMTP id m186so33454820qkb.4; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 20:14:47 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533HziXvOSA8b6gx3VbfGaWlbPZ/40KDrB+yPMiJD997tEX90kfi 9Awvx9iOk36J+p5xC4dPnvt//3THzCMhddmK6qQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw5Lei+vM+12r+SEgi2n7Ecq0qZK2+PRKL3LGpSsyGgXyHvaDpFV9g2hSqQNkcShJacfKJQTWG+e45WdOXkbmA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:1a92:: with SMTP id bl18mr10504387qkb.488.1638418487455; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 20:14:47 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Technical discussion and general questions about packet filter (pf) List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pf List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pf@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202111261940.1AQJeGLZ022802@gitrepo.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: From: Kyle Evans Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 22:14:36 -0600 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: git: 7f944794868f - stable/12 - pf: Introduce ridentifier To: Franco Fichtner Cc: =?UTF-8?B?w5Z6a2FuIEtJUklL?= , Kristof Provost , freebsd-pf@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1638418488; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=zOskh+hCNpkXzhmYUGiFFxEQy4wMJ3XeNcL9I3F6nMc=; b=q0ux6c2/qXZIVJ+hUnlOuqUjtcRPr5/5mEBB7iPa6AOW3ouJwNKKaI6DgqmysHaZBcZQmx xkMZ56cSsM5/2GLprOeYa+6ut/CPnStEstcM8SxfV2LXpJEvz8BB3hrNCZhXOTZQRueMeY R0OO5+60reCo1mjiZR+TW6FyURQPk3cM2m/0b7Tk2R75lpi3A29vOXK+oSRFkXZ180Hhp6 fNVtSa4u9NsihNeMptEe7Kj1FQdVWGpzdZ+e7aijEVXbwmttTChctLIAlb8T4ene8ZNB3D LSYf+9WbVt5YTeu6CCZhXYsPcOCzEGaKnt7ibOmmRe28Brtdv5rDwiPsmtuSBQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1638418488; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=DmlfBSBj1fFA5oePYYEPw68C72Re84yvDZizAO9MNbxijy10VdFkmHsL7DTdhNyR+3Pegx g05Ny17lhTLQT51WU7R+9A9zyXbIN+QH+3GD430dUExIEHALNF6yhwwM43uQJWZuE3YCKk aHMKOOukEh1aKubzEl2Zg0eEP78MZE7V/gFhSJ+FJ2ih0RRnyjEyBvFXXWquHIU1RofO1Q W/Wk2xnPeW4Rc7E2bb3zHzozadlvyweJ4z4VfVbiy/ltVdGHkM7dOkPBNX4hbCl/A2JIhE hfVZ6AkWWPo+VGGdvzcBnmDw9Bomptvb+TsjNXitfUoLpPe5ll4im9x+ynfjGw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 7:16 AM Franco Fichtner wrote: > > Hi, > > I wasn't sure if responding is a good idea but basically ridentifier > and the 3-labels extension added to pf from the pfSense area are more > or less unnecessary cruft and easily worked around the kernel: use the > label as a unique identifier and do the rest in userspace... > > I'm sure not a lot of people care for the state that Netgate puts FreeBSD > in (again and again) but for the sake of ABI stability alone it would be > nicer to avoid such work in stable areas. > Hi Franco, You might have had a valid point here, but I'm afraid it got buried beneath being needlessly antagonistic. I know that you've not had the best relationship with Netgate, but please avoid doing that if you'd like to have a constructive conversation about stuff like this. You can still raise the question of whether a feature has value or not without a lot of what you added there. Thanks, Kyle Evans