From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Sep 11 9:30:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from bytor.rush.net (bytor.rush.net [209.45.245.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85AA14DE5 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 09:30:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lynch@bsdunix.net) Received: from localhost (lynch@localhost) by bytor.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02396; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 12:30:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 12:30:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Lynch X-Sender: lynch@bytor.rush.net To: Adrian Wontroba Cc: Greg Quinlan , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More SCO Propaganda In-Reply-To: <19990910235535.A23835@titus.stade.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org THis is extremely true, having known some of the people over at SCO. People like Kean Johnston and ROn Record (Kean was at outr FreeBSD dinner at USENIX) are believers in Open Source (ROn puts together the skunkware CD) and believe it or not, they are p0artial to FreeBSD for the Open Source OS choice (well at least Kean is ;)) I nticed thier committment to Open Source back at the '98 USENIX conference in New Orleans, and even more recently at the '99 conference in Monterey. I'm pretty impressed personally, and Ron's a pretty knowledgable guy. THey also employ alot of people in that department to put together the skunkware cd's as well as the other free software that they distribute now with the OS (gnome,kde,etc.) Kudos to SCO for maintaining the commercial UNIX of thier own, while really battling for Open Source. They do have to stay in business though, so good luck getting SYS V source ;) -Pat ___________________________________________________________________________ Pat Lynch lynch@rush.net lynch@bsdunix.net Systems Administrator Rush Networking ___________________________________________________________________________ On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Adrian Wontroba wrote: > (moving from stable to chat) > > On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 11:37:50AM +0100, Greg Quinlan wrote: > > http://www.sco.com/profservices/linux/ > > > > I see that SCO is coming to the rescue of OpenSource Unix environments, with > > risk assessment, stability, and most of all expertise. > > > > I quote: > > > > "we believe that SCO has the largest staff of Open Source experts of any > > commercial software vendor." > > > > "As a founding sponsor of Linux International, SCO is a strong proponent of > > the Open Source movement, citing it as a driving force for innovation. Over > > the years, SCO has contributed source code to the movement." > > > > ~~~~~ > > > > It's just lucky for us that SCO is there to drive forward Open Source!! > > (huge sarcasm)!! > > > > Does anyone know if they done anything for FreeBSD Sability? :) > > Not all the sarcasm is deserved. Until I saw the light, and the cost > benefits, I ran SCO UNIX and then OpenDeathTrap. SCO had quite a > positive attitude to what is now called Open Source. Some of their > developers were very helpful and active in the SCO news groups and > mailing lists. Header files and libraries were available for the base > system so that you could use gcc rather than the ever so expensive > development system (I think). There were, still are for all I know, > the periodic Skunkware CDs, chock full of ported and compiled freeware, > which SCO would send to you for free. > > Their claim to having the largest staff of Open Source experts of any > commercial software vendor could well be true. I'm sure that they do > believe the Open Source approach and attendant innovation is overall > good for them. While they will loose a few sales to organisations who > switch to Linux or *BSD, the majority of their customers seem to be > prepared to pay lots for the product, and more for support. > > Yes, a competitor, but a friendly one. They don't seem to have any > ambitions to take over the entire OS market, just enlarge their niche. > > -- > Adrian Wontroba > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message